iso_55 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 He's being dumped on as this **** coach when his GM gave him a qb with a rich, fat contract who didn't seem to care about anything.
TBieber Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Fascinates me how a team fires a Head Coach after a 10-6 season, only to let go his successor after two seasons. Supposedly they're keeping DC Mel Tucker, who orchestrated arguably the worst defence in the league the past two years. Kind of proof, how, at the end of the day, money (Cutler) won out. Pay 8 mill to make Trestman go away as opposed to 22 for Cutler.
Logan007 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe Trestman can walk in to the 49ers job.... they need the help on offense and the team is extremely loaded with talent. Maybe as OC or QB coach. Trestman won't be an NFL head coach ever again. Never say never.
Jpan85 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Can we call Cutler a coach killer or modern day jeff George yet. Floyd 1
TBieber Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe Trestman can walk in to the 49ers job.... they need the help on offense and the team is extremely loaded with talent. Maybe as OC or QB coach. Trestman won't be an NFL head coach ever again. Never say never. If he was younger and had more opportunity for a bounce back, I would agree. At age 59 though I think his only chance is to land a coordinator gig and then become HC on an interim if someone gets canned.
Mark F Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 If he was younger There are a lot of pretty old coaches in the NFL, pittsburgh defensive coach is well into his seventies. Same for Cowboys defensive coach. How old is Shanahan? Coughlin is mid sixties. Two of the best coaches in NFL history came from the CFL.
TBieber Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 If he was younger There's a lot of pretty old coaches in the NFL, pittsburgh defensive coach is well into his seventies. Same for Cowboys defensive coach. How old is Shanahan? Coughlin is mid sixties. Two of the best coaches in NFL history came from the CFL. Of course, no shortage of coaches in their 60s/70s, and he will be one if he continues to coach, but referring to Marc Trestman as a Head Coach in the NFL. Shanahan, as you reference, was 36 in his first shot, Coughlin 48. Years to grow and groom. Trestman took his first job at 57. Others have time to take a lesser job and bounce back, or land a new gig right away after success in their first stop (Coughlin, likely Rex Ryan) Trestman not so much. Mark F 1
Onyenegecha Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Aw, heck. It's a slow day. Let's start a "fire Kyle Walters" thread. We have the next four months with little news to complain about, so we might as well get started early. we need to get another 18 page thread started about this guy again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chijioke_Onyenegecha You know it's the off-season when you can get long threads going about DB's that barely played... Yes. Yes we should.
Mark F Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway.
bearpants Posted December 30, 2014 Author Report Posted December 30, 2014 Rex Ryan to Atlanta with Trestman as the OC would be a nice fit... IMO sweep the leg, Blueandgold and Mark F 3
Jpan85 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. was the DC for Ditka they were at each other's throats for most f the season. Mark F 1
voodoochylde Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. Buddy Ryan was the defensive coordinator for the Bears between 78 and 85 .. created the 46 and was the guy behind the record setting 85 Bears defense .. Rex .. not sure if he wants to get involved with another coach killing quaterback .. for all the tools that Cutler has physically .. the guy is a petulant whiny puss .. actually .. reminds me a lot of Burris in that when he's on .. he can be great .. but when he's bad .. he's god awful ..
voodoochylde Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. was the DC for Ditka they were at each other's throats for most f the season. Actually had to be physically separated during a game as they nearly came to blows .. was during their only loss of the 85 season.
Mark F Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Great buddy ryan ditka stories. last week the jets gave the patriots everything they could ask for, the Pats barely beat the jets. When they still needed the win. Jets defence is really something, specially defensive line.
sweep the leg Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. was the DC for Ditka they were at each other's throats for most f the season. Actually had to be physically separated during a game as they nearly came to blows .. was during their only loss of the 85 season. Monday night vs the Dolphins. That's the first NFL game I ever watched and it made me a Dolphins fan. I remember telling my mom the team with the cool helmets would win that game.
HardCoreBlue Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time.
TBieber Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time. As bad as it seemed, Cutler still had career highs under Trestman, which says something about his ability as an offensive mind. Interesting that the Jaguars fired their OC today - Trestman and Jags HC Gus Bradley are good friends. Would be an ideal landing spot for both parties. Young offence, and the Jags would land a brilliant offensive mind without having to really pony up the big bucks.
TBieber Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. Supposedly interviewed at ESPN about a television gig already as well.
Floyd Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 How on earth did Tucker survive? Mark F 1
Blueandgold Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 I'd fire O'Shea and Bellfool immediately if Trestman had any interest in coming here. TBURGESS 1
iso_55 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time. I remember a MNF game three years ago. A rookie OT missed his block & Cutler was sacked. He pulled a Drew Tate & screamed at him on the field on national television. Even some of his teammates called him out on that one saying how wrong he was. That's not leadership. That's being an ass.
Mark F Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 wonder where Rex Ryan will go? Heard on the radio, 670Chicago, he has already asked for the Chicago job. Think his dad was the Super Bowl winning bears coach. He'd be stuck with another crap quarterback there. for a year or so anyway. Supposedly interviewed at ESPN about a television gig already as well. I think they would just offer him a job, he's really entertaining.
bearpants Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Posted December 31, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time. I remember a MNF game three years ago. A rookie OT missed his block & Cutler was sacked. He pulled a Drew Tate & screamed at him on the field on national television. Even some of his teammates called him out on that one saying how wrong he was. That's not leadership. That's being an ass. It's only called leadership when Tom Brady does it (which is pretty much every game)... at least that's what the media will have you believe...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time. I remember a MNF game three years ago. A rookie OT missed his block & Cutler was sacked. He pulled a Drew Tate & screamed at him on the field on national television. Even some of his teammates called him out on that one saying how wrong he was. That's not leadership. That's being an ass. It's only called leadership when someone with Back to back 400+ yard passing games; most 6 TD games: 3; most passing TD's in a season: 50; most consecutive 2+ TD pass games: 13; most consecutive 3+ TD pass games: 10; back to back 5+ TD pass games; most TD passes in a quarter: 5; most TD passes in a perfect game: 6; most consecutive single-season passes with 0 INT's: 358; most consecutive 2+ TD 0 INT games: 9; most career 4+ TD 0 INT games: 12; 2 career 6+ TD 0 INT games; most career 50+ attempt 0 INT games: 3; best single season TD/INT ratio: 36/4; most career postseason wins: 16; most consecutive postseason wins: 10; most consecutive home wins: 35; perfect regular season record (16-0); most consecutive postseason home wins: 8; highest postseason game completion percentage: 92.9%; quarterback of the 2000's New England Patriots Dynasty; highest career TD/INT ratio: 2.608/1; lowest career INT rate: 2.2%; 7 time Pro Bowl selection; 2 time All Pro; 3 time Super Bowl Champion; 2 time Super Bowl MVP; 2009 Comeback Player of the Year; Patriots all time passing leader, 2 time Offensive Player of the Year; only unanimous NFL MVP; NFL 2000's All Decade Team; 2 time NFL MVP- does it (which is pretty much every game)... at least that's what the media will have you believe... as opposed to Jay Cutler...
bearpants Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Posted December 31, 2014 Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Guess he was no Bud Grant. He should find work however as an oc down there or some such job. Can't see him coming back to the CFL anytime soon, with the bundle he can make down there. Cutler is a coach killer. Even when he plays well he just gives off negative vibes all the time. All the tools to be a great one. But that's his problem, he has all the tools but he's also one himself. Always either pissed off or indifferent. Not a leader by any stretch of the word. How can you win with a player like that? He'll get the next HC in Chicago fired as well. Yup. His history does not lie. If Trestman's mentoring, coaching, tutoring had no effect on Cutler, I say good luck Chicago. Cutler is hands down one of the worst team 'leaders' of all time. I remember a MNF game three years ago. A rookie OT missed his block & Cutler was sacked. He pulled a Drew Tate & screamed at him on the field on national television. Even some of his teammates called him out on that one saying how wrong he was. That's not leadership. That's being an ass. It's only called leadership when someone with Back to back 400+ yard passing games; most 6 TD games: 3; most passing TD's in a season: 50; most consecutive 2+ TD pass games: 13; most consecutive 3+ TD pass games: 10; back to back 5+ TD pass games; most TD passes in a quarter: 5; most TD passes in a perfect game: 6; most consecutive single-season passes with 0 INT's: 358; most consecutive 2+ TD 0 INT games: 9; most career 4+ TD 0 INT games: 12; 2 career 6+ TD 0 INT games; most career 50+ attempt 0 INT games: 3; best single season TD/INT ratio: 36/4; most career postseason wins: 16; most consecutive postseason wins: 10; most consecutive home wins: 35; perfect regular season record (16-0); most consecutive postseason home wins: 8; highest postseason game completion percentage: 92.9%; quarterback of the 2000's New England Patriots Dynasty; highest career TD/INT ratio: 2.608/1; lowest career INT rate: 2.2%; 7 time Pro Bowl selection; 2 time All Pro; 3 time Super Bowl Champion; 2 time Super Bowl MVP; 2009 Comeback Player of the Year; Patriots all time passing leader, 2 time Offensive Player of the Year; only unanimous NFL MVP; NFL 2000's All Decade Team; 2 time NFL MVP- does it (which is pretty much every game)... at least that's what the media will have you believe... as opposed to Jay Cutler... An ******* is still an *******...
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