gbill2004 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Interesting nugget I just thought of. Didn't the Riders cut Kuale while Hall was DC? If Hall already knows how terrible Kuale is, I might finally get my wish of no more Kuale!Except O'Shea has said OC/DC will no longer have any say on players going forward.lol are you serious?? O'Shea did not say this. He said coordinators don't have full control over personnel decisions. Thats what i said. No that's not what you said. Have problems reading? Look at it. Did he not say that his OC/DC wouldnt have a say in player personal going forward? He didnt want everyone changing around him? Of course some guys will go and some will come in... that happens all the time to every team. You said "OC/DC will no longer have any say on players going forward". That's just not true and is not what O'Shea said. O'Shea said they won't have full control. Big difference. Allowing them to have full control in the first place is a bad idea no? Im sure you want them to have some say in it but full control? What grade education do you have...seriously? I'm done with this conversation. Al Bundy, sweep the leg and Logan007 3
New_Earth_Mud Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Interesting nugget I just thought of. Didn't the Riders cut Kuale while Hall was DC? If Hall already knows how terrible Kuale is, I might finally get my wish of no more Kuale!Except O'Shea has said OC/DC will no longer have any say on players going forward.lol are you serious?? O'Shea did not say this. He said coordinators don't have full control over personnel decisions. Thats what i said. No that's not what you said. Have problems reading? Look at it. Did he not say that his OC/DC wouldnt have a say in player personal going forward? He didnt want everyone changing around him? Of course some guys will go and some will come in... that happens all the time to every team. You said "OC/DC will no longer have any say on players going forward". That's just not true and is not what O'Shea said. O'Shea said they won't have full control. Big difference. Allowing them to have full control in the first place is a bad idea no? Im sure you want them to have some say in it but full control? What grade education do you have...seriously? I'm done with this conversation. LMAO.... Your asking me. ha heres what he said.... O'Shea said DC will have to fit the personnel, to a point: "You can?t have a guy come in and change everybody around you." #Bombers #bombers O'Shea says new DC will not have free rein to make player personnel decisions in going forward Maybe i used the word any incorectly but there is no reason for insults unless your 9.
Logan007 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 You do realize that not have ANY control over player personnel and not having FULL control are 2 different things right? What Gbill said is different to what you first stated. O'Shea is not saying that they're not going to listen to the requests or the suggestions of the OC/DC. blitzmore 1
brett_c_b Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 What grade education do you have...seriously? I'm done with this conversation. Your asking me It appears grade 2
New_Earth_Mud Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 You do realize that not have ANY control over player personnel and not having FULL control are 2 different things right? What Gbill said is different to what you first stated. O'Shea is not saying that they're not going to listen to the requests or the suggestions of the OC/DC. I know and i just said i used the wrong word saying ANY. And i posted what O'Shea said. O'Shea said DC will have to fit the personnel, to a point: "You can?t have a guy come in and change everybody around you." #Bombers #bombers O'Shea says new DC will not have free rein to make player personnel decisions in going forward
iso_55 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 It's New Years Day & I thought my head hurt just because of last night until I read this thread... SPuDS, sweep the leg, Mark F and 1 other 4
Floyd Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 I think those comments are more about giving Etch too much free reign than anything else... lesson learned. Now let's hope that Kuale was 'Etch's guy' Logan007 1
Tracker Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Maybe O'Shea saw that a big part of the limp defence problem last year was Etch's selection of players to fit his ideas, and is determined that if he sees a problem, he will intervene. O'Shea ought to have a darned good idea of what kind of players will be successful in the CFL. I think we have to keep in mind that O'Shea may well be on some degree of thin ice this year as to whether he will the head coach next year. The team did sort of OK, but the second-half collapse has raised some concerns that O'Shea may not be able to walk on water.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Did not have to be Kreskin to know Hall was getting the job.
Brandon Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 I wouldn't compare our defense to halls last year. Hall had a great d line and a crap secondary. We have a much better secondary. Also don't forget his defense was on the field a whole lot when they had sunseri and Joseph stinking it up. I'm at least confident that with Hall we can stop the run and that his defense can actually be flexible and change.
Floyd Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Hall is just like etch... Except with a run defence... And a pass rush... And a playbook... Logan007, FrostyWinnipeg and Mark F 3
Goalie Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Did not have to be Kreskin to know Hall was getting the job. The poll results tell a different story. Not many Kreskins on the board.
voodoochylde Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Not an inspiring choice .. safe .. unspectacular .. My preference would have been Benevides ..
TBURGESS Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Hall's a safe choice and better than Etch. We don't have to go into competition (Read 'Overpay') to get him as Sask is the only other team that's looking for a DC right now and they don't want him. We'd have to compete with Regina for Benevides. Hall's a calm, nice guy so he should get along well with the rest of our coaches, the same might not be true of Benevides. Hall's defenses aren't significantly different than Etch's so we won't need to change out as many players as we would if we went with Benevides. Hall's not HC material so he won't be as much a risk to O'Shea as Benevides would be.
17to85 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Hall's a safe choice and better than Etch. We don't have to go into competition (Read 'Overpay') to get him as Sask is the only other team that's looking for a DC right now and they don't want him. We'd have to compete with Regina for Benevides. Hall's a calm, nice guy so he should get along well with the rest of our coaches, the same might not be true of Benevides. Hall's defenses aren't significantly different than Etch's so we won't need to change out as many players as we would if we went with Benevides. Hall's not HC material so he won't be as much a risk to O'Shea as Benevides would be. what a crock of **** post. It's the holiday season, it's a brand new year and you pull the Debbie Downer crap? Come on now. Would it kill you to be positive for once? blitzmore 1
Noeller Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Now, now...we suck, we've always so key, and we'll always suck. Now THAT is Bomber fandom. Gotta not be afraid to tell the truth around here!! Rabble Rabble herp derp...
TBURGESS Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Hall's a safe choice and better than Etch. We don't have to go into competition (Read 'Overpay') to get him as Sask is the only other team that's looking for a DC right now and they don't want him. We'd have to compete with Regina for Benevides. Hall's a calm, nice guy so he should get along well with the rest of our coaches, the same might not be true of Benevides. Hall's defenses aren't significantly different than Etch's so we won't need to change out as many players as we would if we went with Benevides. Hall's not HC material so he won't be as much a risk to O'Shea as Benevides would be. what a crock of **** post. It's the holiday season, it's a brand new year and you pull the Debbie Downer crap? Come on now. Would it kill you to be positive for once? I started with he's better than Etch. What more do you want?
17to85 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 You went into your whole thing where you think that because they're not hiring the guy you want that it's the wrong move. It must be because they're cheap! It must be because they don't know what they're doing! It's tiresome because you don't know half as much as you think you know. Benevides and Hall are both guys who have had plenty of success in the CFL as defensive coordinators, why get hung up on one guy or the other? If it were me I prefer Benevides as well, but I'm not so arrogant as to think I know more than Mike O'Shea in this case. If he thinks Hall is the guy for him then I'm not going to waste time arguing about it.
TBURGESS Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 You went into your whole thing where you think that because they're not hiring the guy you want that it's the wrong move. It must be because they're cheap! It must be because they don't know what they're doing! It's tiresome because you don't know half as much as you think you know. Benevides and Hall are both guys who have had plenty of success in the CFL as defensive coordinators, why get hung up on one guy or the other? If it were me I prefer Benevides as well, but I'm not so arrogant as to think I know more than Mike O'Shea in this case. If he thinks Hall is the guy for him then I'm not going to waste time arguing about it. New year. Same old crap. You shouldn't have start arguments you won't finish. It's so tiresome that you make crap up that I don't say then complain about it almost every time I post anything. I didn't say signing Hall was a bad move. I gave reasons that the Bombers would prefer him over Benevides, including the fact that we don't have to compete to get him. Me arrogant? Pot, meet kettle.
Fatty Liver Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Hall is a very good coordinator IF he is given the talent.. Is now up to Walters to get him a legit MLB and firm up the Dline.. But I am pretty stoked at this if true... Much more traditional and less "out there" then etch was AND a plethora of experience and success.. ...add a balls to the wall pass rusher like Alex Hall.
Fatty Liver Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Richie Hall doesn't get the respect he deserves. Never has, never will. Only reason he was let go was because Chamblin had to save face somehow. As in Bomberville, a piss poor offensive performance in 2014 contributed significantly to getting Hall fired. Mark F 1
SPuDS Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 You went into your whole thing where you think that because they're not hiring the guy you want that it's the wrong move. It must be because they're cheap! It must be because they don't know what they're doing! It's tiresome because you don't know half as much as you think you know. Benevides and Hall are both guys who have had plenty of success in the CFL as defensive coordinators, why get hung up on one guy or the other? If it were me I prefer Benevides as well, but I'm not so arrogant as to think I know more than Mike O'Shea in this case. If he thinks Hall is the guy for him then I'm not going to waste time arguing about it.New year. Same old crap. You shouldn't have start arguments you won't finish. It's so tiresome that you make crap up that I don't say then complain about it almost every time I post anything. I didn't say signing Hall was a bad move. I gave reasons that the Bombers would prefer him over Benevides, including the fact that we don't have to compete to get him. Me arrogant? Pot, meet kettle. And yet it still came across as condescending and insulting because Hall wasn't your choice but benevides was. You feel like the bombers made a bad move because this is a cheaper and less risky proposition for O'Shea and you cannot play dumb about it.. If you seriously are so oblivious to how you come across in your posts 95% of the time....
iso_55 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Wow, only five more months to training camp... Hunker down people as it's already a long off season here.
Mark F Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Wow, only five more months to training camp... Hunker down people as it's already a long off season here. The voice of reason!
Mark H. Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Digging a trench for the next onslaught...as we speak...
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