Mike Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 As per Bob Irving via Twitter, Bellefeuille told the media today that Burke will pick the starting QB on Saturday. Welcome back, Buck Pierce. Floyd 1
MOBomberFan Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/bad--awful--crowton-fired-220149571.html Presser live right now. And over.
Jimmy Pop Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Even when speaking in French, Marcel explains the offence better the anyone in this organization has in years. Noeller, Mr Dee and Blue-urns 3
17to85 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Liked a lot of what he was saying, especially talking about how they need to find something that they do well and can rely on.
Jimmy Pop Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 As per Bob Irving via Twitter, Bellefeuille told the media today that Burke will pick the starting QB on Saturday. Welcome back, Buck Pierce. Awesome, now we know we can keep it relatively close with Ham, lose by 124235233424 to the Riders (twice), all while not gaining a shred of valuable information moving forward. Once Buck goes down, who do they go to? Blue-urns 1
Noeller Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Really interesting presser. Offensive staff will have a meeting and give their recommendation on QB to Burke, who will have the final decision by game time, tho Burke said they'll likely know tomorrow as whoever gets 1st team reps will likely start. Sounds like MB really didn't think much of Crow's offense. Said it was an American -style that just doesn't fit the Canadian game. They tried to re-shape an American offense for Canada, but it just doesn't work that way. CFL is such a unique game, and requires a unique mindset. Will be really interesting to see what MB can do just by switching the play calling a bit...
Mr. Perfect Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 As I've alluded to many times, clearly the offensive schemes were a big, big issue. Lets see how they, whoever they ends up being, do in an actual CANADIAN offence shall we??
Jpan85 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Probably will not be overly complex this week with only one week to get a new game plan in.
Mike Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 The biggest thing Crowton struggled with was his playcalling more than his schemes, in my opinion. The schemes weren't always the greatest but I thought he brought some interesting looks to our offense. It's just too bad that ultimately, he could never get over the hump where he acknowledged he only had two downs to move the chains.
17to85 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 And Bellefeuille did also say there were some really good things in the offense too, but sounds like a lot of simplification and just letting athletes be athletes rather than having to think on the fly all the time. I'll say this too, it is a real sad day when Bellefeuille is seen as the saviour of the offense. yuck. Noeller 1
Super Duper Negatron Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 And Bellefeuille did also say there were some really good things in the offense too, but sounds like a lot of simplification and just letting athletes be athletes rather than having to think on the fly all the time. I'll say this too, it is a real sad day when Bellefeuille is seen as the saviour of the offense. yuck. He sure talks a good game, though. Sounds a lot like LaPolice actually.
Mr Dee Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 i don't mind at all the way he was speaking. He was quick and concise and he projects that he has an understanding of where to go from here. "Take the mental part out of the game and just let the players play" He says that way we can see who actually can perform. I like. Blue-urns 1
The Unknown Poster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Assume we go with Buck. Makes sense. Changes to the offense, short week to get it done, new OC. Better to have the veteran in there. WHomever you like at QB, I think we can agree the veteran is likely to have a better understanding of a revamped offence. I think it somewhat eliminates a distraction too. Sure, the QB position will be a distraction until we have a bonafide starter but putting Buck back in almost seems like a calming move at this point. The QB controversey and switching from guy to guy is closely related to the upheavel of the Mack era. That is behind us now. Best to reset things, go with the veteran, calm the issue down and get back to playing. If Buck struggles, then Goltz goes in, just as he would have at any point in the season.
Mike Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 Assume we go with Buck. Makes sense. Changes to the offense, short week to get it done, new OC. Better to have the veteran in there. WHomever you like at QB, I think we can agree the veteran is likely to have a better understanding of a revamped offence. I think it somewhat eliminates a distraction too. Sure, the QB position will be a distraction until we have a bonafide starter but putting Buck back in almost seems like a calming move at this point. The QB controversey and switching from guy to guy is closely related to the upheavel of the Mack era. That is behind us now. Best to reset things, go with the veteran, calm the issue down and get back to playing. If Buck struggles, then Goltz goes in, just as he would have at any point in the season. How is it going to eliminate a distraction? For the entire time he's been here, Buck has been the distraction. Blue-urns 1
pigseye Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 'There are ways to keep a developed quarterback sharp, as in Bucks case' Said MB about practices, sounds like Buck won't be starting if that's the case.
Mr. Perfect Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 And Bellefeuille did also say there were some really good things in the offense too, but sounds like a lot of simplification and just letting athletes be athletes rather than having to think on the fly all the time. I'll say this too, it is a real sad day when Bellefeuille is seen as the saviour of the offense. yuck. It's not so much that he is seen as the saviour, as simply put he was the best, available person with the most knowledge of CFL offences. I wouldn't read much into his current position having much bearing heading into 2014, if Miller is true to his words as it relates to an "exhaustive" search for a GM, who will obviously want his own head coach, and said head coach will want his own OC.
The Unknown Poster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 I think the issue is the distraction. I dont think this season has been fair to any of the three QB's, to be fair. The O has looked bad no matter who is there. We just fired the OC. It's been acknowledged that his system didnt fit the CFL. We can't point to Buck's injury history as an issue this season because he hasn't missed a game due to injury. If he starts this week and plays well, then what? it's entirely possible. It's also possible Goltz would play better under Marcel. But all things being equal (and they arent anyway), I'd go with the only QB we have with CFL experience and the only QB we have that has ever won anything.
Mike Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 I think the issue is the distraction. I dont think this season has been fair to any of the three QB's, to be fair. The O has looked bad no matter who is there. We just fired the OC. It's been acknowledged that his system didnt fit the CFL. We can't point to Buck's injury history as an issue this season because he hasn't missed a game due to injury. If he starts this week and plays well, then what? it's entirely possible. It's also possible Goltz would play better under Marcel. But all things being equal (and they arent anyway), I'd go with the only QB we have with CFL experience and the only QB we have that has ever won anything. Yes he has ...
Nic16 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 He's got his hands full coming into this mess. Hopefully he is able to get his ideas/plans in place and thru to the offense relatively quickly so that they can bring some entertainment & hope to the fans before this year is out.
voodoochylde Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Bellefeuille did say this wasn't an ideal situation for himself professionally and that he didn't want to take on the OC role. He did say thought that, when he joined the organization, said he'd do whatever it took to help us be successful .. this turned out to be whatever.
The Unknown Poster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 'There are ways to keep a developed quarterback sharp, as in Bucks case' Said MB about practices, sounds like Buck won't be starting if that's the case. I didnt watch the presser so I dont know the context. Could he have meant they have done things to keep Buck sharp? ie. "how can you consider starting Buck this week when he's had no playing time?" "Because there are ways to keep him sharp". ie. He IS sharp and ready to play.
The Unknown Poster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 I think the issue is the distraction. I dont think this season has been fair to any of the three QB's, to be fair. The O has looked bad no matter who is there. We just fired the OC. It's been acknowledged that his system didnt fit the CFL. We can't point to Buck's injury history as an issue this season because he hasn't missed a game due to injury. If he starts this week and plays well, then what? it's entirely possible. It's also possible Goltz would play better under Marcel. But all things being equal (and they arent anyway), I'd go with the only QB we have with CFL experience and the only QB we have that has ever won anything. Yes he has ... Which game did he miss? I dont recall any game where he was not dressed and ready to play.
Fraser Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Bellefeuille did say this wasn't an ideal situation for himself professionally and that he didn't want to take on the OC role. He did say thought that, when he joined the organization, said he'd do whatever it took to help us be successful .. this turned out to be whatever. fans might not be smart enough to appreciate the situation he is in but I'm sure in the cfl community there is little he can do to tarnish his reputation with the last half of this season.
AKAChip Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 That's because we only have three QBs on the entire roster. The Calgary game he would have been scratched for had we had a fourth QB on the roster.
Mike Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Posted August 19, 2013 I think the issue is the distraction. I dont think this season has been fair to any of the three QB's, to be fair. The O has looked bad no matter who is there. We just fired the OC. It's been acknowledged that his system didnt fit the CFL. We can't point to Buck's injury history as an issue this season because he hasn't missed a game due to injury. If he starts this week and plays well, then what? it's entirely possible. It's also possible Goltz would play better under Marcel. But all things being equal (and they arent anyway), I'd go with the only QB we have with CFL experience and the only QB we have that has ever won anything. Yes he has ... Which game did he miss? I dont recall any game where he was not dressed and ready to play. He was listed as the #3 QB because we had to dress three but he would not have played.
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