Jets @ Stars

[Atomic]

Hutch's sample size is still too small to say, Really he's played 20 career NHL games so far, I like the guy but the fact is, who knows what Hutch will be like in a years time, He's under contract next season for 600,000. What do you do with Pav when/if Hutch is ready to permanently take over? Many things..Buy him out, Bury his contract in St Johns, Trade him.. Believe it or not, you probably could get something back for him, his numbers are better than lots of goalies in the league right now, Minny just traded a 3rd round pick for Devan Friggin Dubnyk.. You could probably get something in return for Pav.. not sure what? But wouldn't shock me if they trade him in the off-season if they feel Hutch actually can be that guy and Hellebyuck is ready to come up and back up. Or you just keep Pav around one more year, Make some tough choices elsewhere, Ladd and Buff are both due for new contracts? do you sign both of them? let them both go? sign one only? You also have guys like Ehlers,Morrissey,Petan,Copp probably coming in on ELC's not getting paid much. Theres ways to balance this out but.. right now as much as i like Hutch and think he does have what it takes to be a good goalie in this league for this team, right now, he still is kind of unproven. 20 games or so in his NHL career so far, Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet with Hutch. Trade Kane? Don't re-sign slater? Lots of options really but it's too early to worry about what to do with PAV in a year or 2 when Hutch needs a new contract cuz who really knows what happens between now and then. 

 

lol you're presenting burying a 4 million dollar contract in St Johns, not re-signing Ladd or Byfuglien, and trading Kane as realistic options and you still don't understand why Pav's contract is a problem?

[Brandon]

If we can get anything good for Pavs I'd pull the trade and risk it with Budaj (if he's healthy?).

Now if we can only get a bag of pucks then I guess eat the contract and try to dump him in the off season.

[Jpan85]

If they win tonights game they will only be out of second by 2 points.

[mbrg]

lol you're presenting burying a 4 million dollar contract in St Johns, not re-signing Ladd or Byfuglien, and trading Kane as realistic options and you still don't understand why Pav's contract is a problem?

 

Total nonsense.

 

The Jets payroll for goalies is 4.5 million.  That is less than almost every other team in the league (finding all the numbers post-capgeek is too time consuming).  Cam Ward is making 6.7 million this year.  Anton Khudobin is making 800k as the backup.  Combined 8.5 million at that position.  We could give Hutchinson a 3 million dollar raise today and still be paying a million less per season for our goalies than the Hurricanes are.

 

You don't like Pavelec.  So be it.  His contract makes him difficult to trade if we wanted to do that.  It does not impede decisions for other players, affect the "salary structure" of the team, or create a social injustice that must be addressed.  It just pisses you off because you don't think he's worth it.  Turns out the Jets don't really care about your feelings.  That's not very nice of them.

[Atomic]

 

lol you're presenting burying a 4 million dollar contract in St Johns, not re-signing Ladd or Byfuglien, and trading Kane as realistic options and you still don't understand why Pav's contract is a problem?

 

Total nonsense.

 

The Jets payroll for goalies is 4.5 million.  That is less than almost every other team in the league (finding all the numbers post-capgeek is too time consuming).  Cam Ward is making 6.7 million this year.  Anton Khudobin is making 800k as the backup.  Combined 8.5 million at that position.  We could give Hutchinson a 3 million dollar raise today and still be paying a million less per season for our goalies than the Hurricanes are.

 

You don't like Pavelec.  So be it.  His contract makes him difficult to trade if we wanted to do that.  It does not impede decisions for other players, affect the "salary structure" of the team, or create a social injustice that must be addressed.  It just pisses you off because you don't think he's worth it.  Turns out the Jets don't really care about your feelings.  That's not very nice of them.

 

 

WTF are you even talking about?  I have no problem with Pavelec.  But if he is not starting and he is making starter money, that is a problem.  It's not complicated.  Proceed with getting all worked up again over a perceived slight to your favourite player.

[mbrg]

Byfuglien?

[Goalie]

Hate to say it but hutch has played in 19 games this year. We are playing game 46 tonight. Unless pav was injured that would mean he's played 26 games so far. Tonight is Hutch 20th game. Seems to me Pav is playing so not sure what this hutch is the starter thing Is about. Reality is they both are playing. Last night Pav played. Tonight Hutch. Sunday probably Pav. Wednesday Hutch. Pav is the starter some games. Hutch is other games. Talking a year or 2 from now? Who knows. Maybe Hellebyuck is the starter. Hutch needs to prove himself this year. Has come back to reality a bit the last few games. I like Hutch but a year from now he could be in the ECHL like he was at this time last year pretty much. He might be some NHL all star too tho. But right now for as much as some think. He's not the starter. They both are.

[The Unknown Poster]

If the team plays like Last night, Hutch will be in for a long long night. It's more about the team in front of the goalie than just the goalie himself. Last night was, well, let's just say if you leave your goalie out to dry like that most games, you aren't gonna win. Pavelec stood on his head the entire night, That was the best goaltending performance this season probably by any goalie on any team, Games like that are not gonna happen very often. You just expect your goalie to make the key saves and keep you in it for the most part, not steal the game.

Jets need to show up tonight, if not, i don't care if it's Hutch, Price, Pavelec, Rinne, you aren't gonna win much if you play like that.

Need to stop making it about the goalies and making it about the team as a whole, last night? sure, Pav won the game but to expect the goalie to do that every night is just unrealistic and for the most part this season, the goalies haven't had to steal the game, they just needed to make some key saves. Last night was the exception, Dallas had damn near 100 shot attempts, That does not happen every night and if it happens tonight, I highly doubt they win.

Jets need to show up as a team tonight, if not, it's a guaranteed loss, regardless of how well Hutch or whoever is in net plays.

Part of the reason, the main part really why Pavelec was so amazing last night was because the team in front of him absolutely sucked the last 2 periods.

You're right. People get too up down about the goalies which is why some of us joke about it. Here's hoping Hutch is sensational tonight

[Atomic]

Byfuglien?

He's my favorite player. You have to pick someone else.

[Goalie]

If the team plays like Last night, Hutch will be in for a long long night. It's more about the team in front of the goalie than just the goalie himself. Last night was, well, let's just say if you leave your goalie out to dry like that most games, you aren't gonna win. Pavelec stood on his head the entire night, That was the best goaltending performance this season probably by any goalie on any team, Games like that are not gonna happen very often. You just expect your goalie to make the key saves and keep you in it for the most part, not steal the game.

Jets need to show up tonight, if not, i don't care if it's Hutch, Price, Pavelec, Rinne, you aren't gonna win much if you play like that.

Need to stop making it about the goalies and making it about the team as a whole, last night? sure, Pav won the game but to expect the goalie to do that every night is just unrealistic and for the most part this season, the goalies haven't had to steal the game, they just needed to make some key saves. Last night was the exception, Dallas had damn near 100 shot attempts, That does not happen every night and if it happens tonight, I highly doubt they win.

Jets need to show up as a team tonight, if not, it's a guaranteed loss, regardless of how well Hutch or whoever is in net plays.

Part of the reason, the main part really why Pavelec was so amazing last night was because the team in front of him absolutely sucked the last 2 periods.

You're right. People get too up down about the goalies which is why some of us joke about it. Here's hoping Hutch is sensational tonight

It don't really seem like jokes

[sweep the leg]

Hate to say it but hutch has played in 19 games this year. We are playing game 46 tonight. Unless pav was injured that would mean he's played 26 games so far. Tonight is Hutch 20th game. Seems to me Pav is playing so not sure what this hutch is the starter thing Is about.

Putting those numbers into context would help you sort it out. Pavelec has more starts b/c he began the season as the unquestioned starter. He's now lost that role and is getting fewer starts in a rotation where the other guy is on the opposite trajectory.

[sweep the leg]

I like the way they're using our goalies, mostly b/c it's been working for us. Pavelec has proven that he can't handle the starter's job as a full time gig, and Hutchinson hasn't really proven anything yet. There's no need to push the role on him yet.