gbill2004 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Over the last 18 months, Kyle Walters has methodically transformed the Bombers offensive line, turning a weakness into a strength. Gone are Justin Sorensen, Tyson Pencer, Andre Douglas, Shannon Boatman, Chris Kowalczuk, Paul Swiston, and likely Steve Morley and Glenn January. In are Dominic Picard, Stanley Bryant, Marc Dile, Mathias Goossen, Patrick Neufeld, Jace Daniels, Quinn Everett and Devin Tyler. Will likely see one or two more drafted this year. One could argue that our new starting five for 2015 are the best in the league, or at worst, top 3. Here's how I project the starting five this year: LT - Stanley Bryant LG - Chris Greaves C - Dominic Picard RG - Patrick Neufeld RT - Marc Dile 6th - Mathias Goossen Reserve/PR - Quinn Everett, Jace Daniels, Devin Tyler This OL transformation by Walters is very impressive and reminds me a little of a couple years ago when the Riders were regarded as having the best OL in the league, and went on to win the Grey Cup, in large part because of their great OL. However, unlike Taman, Walters strategy is sustainable based on the contracts he is giving out. We are seeing now that Taman mortgaged the future and the Riders are paying for those consequences now. A lot will rest on Bob Wylie's shoulders to get the hogs to gel and to get the run game going and provide better protection for Drew Willy. The results will speak for itself, but at least on paper, this Bombers offensive line looks dominant; its now up to Wylie and Bellefeuille to make it work. Well done Mr. Walters. It's an exciting time to be a Bomber fan.
Nolby Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 I'm extremely glad that this was the main area that Kyle focused greatly on in the off season. We would've never seen any of this from Mack and his crew. This organization looks to be crawling out of the laughing stock of the league and now into a team that people are beginning to take notice of.
Mark F Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 provide better protection for Drew Willy. I guess now that we have a good offensive line, Willy has to show something more than what we saw last half of last season. Nice summary too, thanks!
17to85 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field. James, johnzo, Atomic and 3 others 6
Nolby Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field.what ifs apply to every team, not just the Bombers. It's a fresh start with some solids names on O, let's be optimistic instead of analytical. Al Bundy 1
Noeller Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Dile, Picard and Neufeld are really really big What Ifs though....
New_Earth_Mud Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Dile, Picard and Neufeld are really really big What Ifs though.... True but... What if we had to go into this season with the Oline we had last year? Id take the new what ifs over last year anyday.
TBURGESS Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 I like this years 'What If's' better than last years. I'm stoked that they finally did something about the O line that didn't involve drafting and crossing their fingers that we'd have a good O line sometime down the road. I expect us to be in the top half of the league this year, which is a big step forward. My guess for the O line: Bryant, Greaves, Picard, Goosen, Daniels with Neufeld as the 6th. Tyler, Dile and Newbie Draft pick on the PR/Reserve. Noeller and Blue-urns 2
gbill2004 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field.what ifs apply to every team, not just the Bombers. It's a fresh start with some solids names on O, let's be optimistic instead of analytical. An OL with this much turnover typically takes 4-5 weeks to gel, so don't be surprised if there are some early season struggles with the OL. But once they gel, I expect this OL to be dominant. And we couldn't ask for a better guy than Wylie to help make that happen. kelownabomberfan 1
Mr Dee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 I see the transformation of our O-Line as a smart one being kick-started by the availability of Picard. Walters picked it up from there and scored a major hit with Bryant, and who really expected that? I believe they believe they have something in Jace Daniels and the acquisition of Dile is a smart gamble. We now, have, possibly, an O-Line that Wylie can transform into a very good unit, an O-Line that will be a positive for the team instead of a distraction. Too early to get too excited? Yes and no, but I wouldn't want it any other way.
iso_55 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field.what ifs apply to every team, not just the Bombers. It's a fresh start with some solids names on O, let's be optimistic instead of analytical. 17's not being analytical. He's being realistic.
rebusrankin Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 We'll be better no question but dominant will have to wait and see. Hell, I'd take average. Rich 1
17to85 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 And just for the record, I didn't say don't be optimistic, I said temper expectations. Talk of league best before even starting training camp? with 3 new faces? That's jumping the gun. Wait until they show it before we make claims about best in the league or top 3 or whatever. Rich and iso_55 2
gbill2004 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 And just for the record, I didn't say don't be optimistic, I said temper expectations. Talk of league best before even starting training camp? with 3 new faces? That's jumping the gun. Wait until they show it before we make claims about best in the league or top 3 or whatever.Three new faces is 60% of the OL. That's pretty huge.
iso_55 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 I agree with Rebusrankin. They'll be better. The bar was set pretty low here for a long time. We just don't know how much. The Bryant acquisition is huge. Willy's blindside should be a lot safer from players coming off the edge. Dile is a very good player but has to stay healthy. Picard if he can perform up to the level he has been playing at center those 3 will make a huge difference. But I'm with 17, let's just wait & see how they do as a unit.
blitzmore Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field. what if 1000 pigeons flew over Portage and Main and all **** at the same time? Al Bundy 1
Floyd Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Bryant is a huge upgrade over January - even in his prime Between Bryant and Picard, greaves will be better Right side is still a question mark but at the very least we have more bodies to compete at camp I'll predict goossen wins the battle for RG
Mike Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 They'll be better but I'm not labeling them top anything until they show something as a unit, not just individuals
SPuDS Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Going to be better, guarenteed.. Going to be dominant?? Potential for greatness is there but an oline needs to be cohesive.. Gotta make sure all these horses can work together and be that monster line we have been desperately waiting for..
Mike Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 That being said it's not a slight on Walters. Realistically, he's provided us with the best scenario we could have hoped for going forward. He's set the team up for massive success, they just need to put it in motion. SPuDS, Mark F and iso_55 3
iso_55 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field. what if 1000 pigeons flew over Portage and Main and all **** at the same time? Well, we know the answer to that more than how that unit will play together.
Mr Dee Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 The mere fact that we're not wasting our time waiting for those young guys (Kowalczuk, Pencer, Swiston, etc.) to develop into stater material, and have moved forward with an aggressive pursuit of for real O-Lineman is enough to give me calculated hope for a better running attack and therefore better pass protection. It's about bloody time. iso_55 1
WBBFanWest Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field. Funny that you didn't unleash this same logic in the Glenn thread.
iso_55 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 What happens if these guys don't mesh as a unit? What if Dile is hurt and can't play, what if Picard is washed up? What if Greaves and Neufeld don't pick up their games? I know it's fun to look at the names and say they are one of the best, but I think tempering expectations is a good idea. Let's save this kind of talk until it's actually proven on the field. Funny that you didn't unleash this same logic in the Glenn thread. Because we're talking inexperienced rookies at qb in the Glenn thread. We had experienced OL & they still sucked. Asking a rookie qb with limited experience to carry the team on his back if he has to is just asking for trouble. So apples to oranges.
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