Alberta, Taxes, and Socialism

[Mr Dee]

……………NDP  - WIN!!!…………..

[Jaxon]

gotta wonder what Danielle Smith is thinking right now.   What the political picture would look like had she stayed with Wild Rose over going to the PC's.   Clearly Albertans were in the mood for a change, and perhaps it could of been her had she not jumped ship.

[17to85]

gotta wonder what Danielle Smith is thinking right now.   What the political picture would look like had she stayed with Wild Rose over going to the PC's.   Clearly Albertans were in the mood for a change, and perhaps it could of been her had she not jumped ship.

If she and the rest of them hadn't crossed the floor they'd have won the election without question. People got fed up with the PCs and their arrogance and corruption but no one trusted the Wild Rose after that floor crossing. The Liberals were in shambles as well, the only protest vote was to the NDP. They best tread lightly though. They won a lot of seats by the right splitting a vote, if the right gets behind one party or the other it will swing back. 

 

 

I am so disappointed in this province. Seen the NDP **** up Manitoba, don't want to see the same out here. 

[rebusrankin]

What happens to the rest of Canada when Alberta becomes a have not province?

[basslicker]

Ughhhhh

I leave an ndp cesspool......just in time for Alberta to try and become one.

awesome.

Oh well, they can't be as bad as Manitoba's ndp......right?

Notley said no pst. Let's see if she breaks that pledge

[basslicker]

gotta wonder what Danielle Smith is thinking right now. What the political picture would look like had she stayed with Wild Rose over going to the PC's. Clearly Albertans were in the mood for a change, and perhaps it could of been her had she not jumped ship.

If she and the rest of them hadn't crossed the floor they'd have won the election without question. People got fed up with the PCs and their arrogance and corruption but no one trusted the Wild Rose after that floor crossing. The Liberals were in shambles as well, the only protest vote was to the NDP. They best tread lightly though. They won a lot of seats by the right splitting a vote, if the right gets behind one party or the other it will swing back.

I am so disappointed in this province. Seen the NDP **** up Manitoba, don't want to see the same out here.

You're very correct. The right vote split opened the door in many ridings.

They still would have won Edmonton but in general that's how they won. You add the pc and wildrose votes together and the ndp don't win. One of them has to go.

[Atomic]

You guys voted in the NDP? NOW?! Oh man. An economy on the downswing does not need the NDP. Holy ****. Good luck Alberta.

[mbrg]

 

gotta wonder what Danielle Smith is thinking right now.   What the political picture would look like had she stayed with Wild Rose over going to the PC's.   Clearly Albertans were in the mood for a change, and perhaps it could of been her had she not jumped ship.

If she and the rest of them hadn't crossed the floor they'd have won the election without question. People got fed up with the PCs and their arrogance and corruption but no one trusted the Wild Rose after that floor crossing. The Liberals were in shambles as well, the only protest vote was to the NDP. They best tread lightly though. They won a lot of seats by the right splitting a vote, if the right gets behind one party or the other it will swing back. 

 

 

I am so disappointed in this province. Seen the NDP **** up Manitoba, don't want to see the same out here. 

 

 

Part of me is all lololololololol, and part of me thinks after 40some years this is something that should happen anyways.

 

But then I go right back to lolololololololol.

 

Enjoy your NDP government Alberta, they'll fix the economy reeeeal goooood.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtdXzBSVaU

[TBURGESS]

Man.... I move to Alberta and the go NDP?  Should be an interesting few years.

[The Unknown Poster]

I dont know much about Alberta politics other than what i've seen online recently.

 

However...isnt the NDP fundementally opposed to fracking and the oil sands?  How will they handle that?  Are they going to deliberately sabotage that industry?  Will they use up all the profits on social programs and turn the economy into a have-not?

 

I understand the idea of a protest vote but isnt this cutting off your nose to spite your face?  Wouldnt the smart thing have been a minority government?  What damage will the NDP do in four years?

[basslicker]

Man.... I move to Alberta and the go NDP? Should be an interesting few years.

Man, I'm with ya.

[basslicker]

I dont know much about Alberta politics other than what i've seen online recently.

However...isnt the NDP fundementally opposed to fracking and the oil sands? How will they handle that? Are they going to deliberately sabotage that industry? Will they use up all the profits on social programs and turn the economy into a have-not?

I understand the idea of a protest vote but isnt this cutting off your nose to spite your face? Wouldnt the smart thing have been a minority government? What damage will the NDP do in four years?

They say they want to diversify the province And avoid the boom or bust.

I hope they don't sabotage he oilsands. Although the for sure will be putting the west pipeline on hold.

And ya, at least one candidate said she opposed fracking.

[The Unknown Poster]

Well hopefully it's so bad, everyone votes Conservative in the federal election! :-)

 

Although I love Justin's new tax plan that saves me a whopping $800 a year but does nothing for poorer people.  I guess Im rich.

[17to85]

The scariest part to me is how the NDP figures they should build refineries in Alberta and keep jobs local. It shows a complete and utter lack of understanding of the industry, but it's so typically NDP. Invest massive amounts of money into a low profit industry. Talk about a money pit. People actually believe that only "rich people" are going to see their taxes go up, hah! Not to mention that the oil industry doesn't take kindly to higher royalties and taxes, they'll play hard ball which affects the working stiffs in this province. The people who voted for them deserve this, I just hope they **** things up so badly in the next few years they render themselves un-electable ever again. 

[StevetheClub]

It's been depressing to see what the NDP have done in Manitoba and I certainly hope the same doesn't happen here. The talk I've been hearing that the Alberta NDP are not like the NDP out East. I guess time will tell.

[Mr Dee]

Change should not be feared because of change alone. What happens elsewhere does not always recur again. Manitoba's situation is entirely different than Alberta's, and I'm sure that will be evident in the coming months. It was time for a new Gov. in Alberta, and you got it in a shocking way.

I can only hope that Canada gets a similar change on the Federal level. We need it.

[The Unknown Poster]

Change should not be feared because of change alone. What happens elsewhere does not always recur again. Manitoba's situation is entirely different than Alberta's, and I'm sure that will be evident in the coming months. It was time for a new Gov. in Alberta, and you got it in a shocking way.

I can only hope that Canada gets a similar change on the Federal level. We need it.

yes and no.  One could argue the Doer NDP was vastly different than the Selinger NDP.  But the last thing we need is a federal change in government.  Shudder at the thought of Justin as PM. 

[Mr Dee]

You should really be shuddering with whom is in power at this very moment.

[The Unknown Poster]

You should really be shuddering with whom is in power at this very moment.

Well you will never change your mind and I will never change your mind so it's rather moot.  But i'd vote for Harper 100 times if I could.  Absent the boogyman stories, his government has been good for the country.  Even when they do things I dont agree with, such as lowering the GST, it was what he promised to do so he did it.

[17to85]

Change should not be feared because of change alone. What happens elsewhere does not always recur again. Manitoba's situation is entirely different than Alberta's, and I'm sure that will be evident in the coming months. It was time for a new Gov. in Alberta, and you got it in a shocking way.

I can only hope that Canada gets a similar change on the Federal level. We need it.

A big part of Manitobas situation is because past NDP governments made it an unfriendly place to do business. The Alberta NDP campaigned on making corporations and specifically oil and gas companies pay more. They are actively looking to make it a less business friendly environment. Wish I was a teacher, then I'd be taken care of by the NDP. As it stands they're just going to tax me more, slow down an already slow oil field which means I'll earn less with less work, all in the name of someone else should pay for the spending. **** the NDP and their ass backwards ideals. 

[RagingIce]

 

Change should not be feared because of change alone. What happens elsewhere does not always recur again. Manitoba's situation is entirely different than Alberta's, and I'm sure that will be evident in the coming months. It was time for a new Gov. in Alberta, and you got it in a shocking way.

I can only hope that Canada gets a similar change on the Federal level. We need it.

A big part of Manitobas situation is because past NDP governments made it an unfriendly place to do business. The Alberta NDP campaigned on making corporations and specifically oil and gas companies pay more. They are actively looking to make it a less business friendly environment. Wish I was a teacher, then I'd be taken care of by the NDP. As it stands they're just going to tax me more, slow down an already slow oil field which means I'll earn less with less work, all in the name of someone else should pay for the spending. **** the NDP and their ass backwards ideals. 

 

Any stats to back that up? Manitoba has one of the strongest economies in the country. The recession barely hit us.

[Mr Dee]

 

You should really be shuddering with whom is in power at this very moment.

Well you will never change your mind and I will never change your mind so it's rather moot.  But i'd vote for Harper 100 times if I could.  Absent the boogyman stories, his government has been good for the country.  Even when they do things I dont agree with, such as lowering the GST, it was what he promised to do so he did it.

 

But that's the thing, you cannot just ignore what Harper is doing to the Country, its people, and the many, many rights that his Gov. has curtailed.

It's not always about the money.

And you say you trust that man?

No, we will never agree on that.

[Logan007]

Hey, Doer was good when he was our NDP leader.  Then this loser took over and it's been downhill ever since.

[Mr Dee]

 

Change should not be feared because of change alone. What happens elsewhere does not always recur again. Manitoba's situation is entirely different than Alberta's, and I'm sure that will be evident in the coming months. It was time for a new Gov. in Alberta, and you got it in a shocking way.

I can only hope that Canada gets a similar change on the Federal level. We need it.

A big part of Manitobas situation is because past NDP governments made it an unfriendly place to do business. The Alberta NDP campaigned on making corporations and specifically oil and gas companies pay more. They are actively looking to make it a less business friendly environment. Wish I was a teacher, then I'd be taken care of by the NDP. As it stands they're just going to tax me more, slow down an already slow oil field which means I'll earn less with less work, all in the name of someone else should pay for the spending. **** the NDP and their ass backwards ideals. 

 

There is definitely a fine line between being business friendly and bending over. What you're implying that the teachers get, is exactly what people are saying…that they wish they were big business…'cause they are being taken care of. Big business will use you, and when they see fit, leave you holding the empty money bags.

Anyways, none of that has happened yet in Alberta, so the fear is worse than the reality…so far.

[Noeller]

Hey, Doer was good when he was our NDP leader.  Then this loser took over and it's been downhill ever since.

This is basically what I'm hanging on to. Doer was great...the province was great. Selinger just ****** everything up. The NDP, as a party, aren't necessarily the boogey man, as Doer's NDP proved. 

 

I'm taking a wait-and-see approach to all this. We desperately needed a radical change.