Alberta, Taxes, and Socialism

[Mark F]

 

I'd like to see some evidence that there is any leftist mainstream in Canada.

 

LOL!  Oh my ribs....

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[Jaxon]

It sure looks like May was drunk.  She certainly was classless and inappropriate.  Her mentioning class with regards to the cabinet is very ironic.

 

I'd like to see her meet face to face with  Sgt. Layne Morris (who lost an eye due to Khadr's actions) or the family of Sgt. Chris Speer (who was killed by Khadr)   so many leftist like her want to treat criminals as if they are victims, and they forget about the real victims.

 

May is clearly not ready for prime time.  If the Greens don't dump her, they should change their name to "Reds" as in embarrassed (or Commie's).

[The Unknown Poster]

 

"I am not denying that … but primarily, it was just whatever wine the waiters serve at our table. I hadn't had drinks before or after, so I don't think that was a factor, but obviously that is what people are saying online."

The next morning, she got up and went to church, she pointed out.

"I had no problems with my day, so I think it was just the general problem of sleep deprivation, and attempts at humour that… didn't work. What can I say — I'm a politician, not a comedian, and that went very badly."

 

 

Hopefully she didn't drop as many F-bombs at church the next day.

 

What a loser.  She's allowing the idea of the wine to stand as a potential excuse while then giving excuses as to why it probably wasnt.  Either you were drunk or not.  But this isnt like some mind control took over her mouth.  Sleep deprivation?  My goodness.  What a clown.

[17to85]

 

 

"I am not denying that … but primarily, it was just whatever wine the waiters serve at our table. I hadn't had drinks before or after, so I don't think that was a factor, but obviously that is what people are saying online."

The next morning, she got up and went to church, she pointed out.

"I had no problems with my day, so I think it was just the general problem of sleep deprivation, and attempts at humour that… didn't work. What can I say — I'm a politician, not a comedian, and that went very badly."

 

 

Hopefully she didn't drop as many F-bombs at church the next day.

 

What a loser.  She's allowing the idea of the wine to stand as a potential excuse while then giving excuses as to why it probably wasnt.  Either you were drunk or not.  But this isnt like some mind control took over her mouth.  Sleep deprivation?  My goodness.  What a clown.

 

But it really illustrates the lefts ideals though right? No one is responsible for their actions, there's always something else to blame. 

[kelownabomberfan]

It sure looks like May was drunk.  She certainly was classless and inappropriate.  Her mentioning class with regards to the cabinet is very ironic.

 

I'd like to see her meet face to face with  Sgt. Layne Morris (who lost an eye due to Khadr's actions) or the family of Sgt. Chris Speer (who was killed by Khadr)   so many leftist like her want to treat criminals as if they are victims, and they forget about the real victims.

 

May is clearly not ready for prime time.  If the Greens don't dump her, they should change their name to "Reds" as in embarrassed (or Commie's).

I've seen the term "watermelons" coined for people like Lizzie and her ilk. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

[HardCoreBlue]

 

 

 

"I am not denying that … but primarily, it was just whatever wine the waiters serve at our table. I hadn't had drinks before or after, so I don't think that was a factor, but obviously that is what people are saying online."

The next morning, she got up and went to church, she pointed out.

"I had no problems with my day, so I think it was just the general problem of sleep deprivation, and attempts at humour that… didn't work. What can I say — I'm a politician, not a comedian, and that went very badly."

 

 

Hopefully she didn't drop as many F-bombs at church the next day.

 

What a loser.  She's allowing the idea of the wine to stand as a potential excuse while then giving excuses as to why it probably wasnt.  Either you were drunk or not.  But this isnt like some mind control took over her mouth.  Sleep deprivation?  My goodness.  What a clown.

 

But it really illustrates the lefts ideals though right? No one is responsible for their actions, there's always something else to blame. 

 

Left, right, center doesn't matter. Some of us reserve judgment until all the available facts are in.

[kelownabomberfan]

According to some of the comments I've read from MP's from all parties, most are congenial and forgiving, as apparently May is well-liked by her colleagues. One Liberal MP said as embarrassing as it was for May it still wasn't as bad as Layton in 2004 and Duceppe in 2005.

[Mark H.]

That does it - I'm not voting till we have a watermelon party

[17to85]

 

 

 

 

"I am not denying that … but primarily, it was just whatever wine the waiters serve at our table. I hadn't had drinks before or after, so I don't think that was a factor, but obviously that is what people are saying online."

The next morning, she got up and went to church, she pointed out.

"I had no problems with my day, so I think it was just the general problem of sleep deprivation, and attempts at humour that… didn't work. What can I say — I'm a politician, not a comedian, and that went very badly."

 

 

Hopefully she didn't drop as many F-bombs at church the next day.

 

What a loser.  She's allowing the idea of the wine to stand as a potential excuse while then giving excuses as to why it probably wasnt.  Either you were drunk or not.  But this isnt like some mind control took over her mouth.  Sleep deprivation?  My goodness.  What a clown.

 

But it really illustrates the lefts ideals though right? No one is responsible for their actions, there's always something else to blame. 

 

Left, right, center doesn't matter. Some of us reserve judgment until all the available facts are in.

 

what facts are needed here? she got up on stage and made an ass of herself and is now trying to excuse her bad behaviour through a litany of excuses. 

[kelownabomberfan]

That does it - I'm not voting till we have a watermelon party

 

You might have to settle for a lemon party.  It's almost as much fun.

[Mark H.]

That does it - I'm not voting till we have a watermelon party

You might have to settle for a lemon party. It's almost as much fun.

Cool - that should put the squeeze on things

[kelownabomberfan]

So the first order of business for Notley is to hire career NDP cheeseball Brian Topp as her chief of staff. That's got to scare the Albertans.

[Tehedra]

The sad thing is so many people were surprised that the NDP won in Alberta because they figured hey if I vote Wild Rose instead of PC that the Wild Rose party will win.  What happened is the two conservative parties (Wild Rose/PC) split the vote almost down the middle leading to an NDP majority.  Sadly NDP only got 41% of the popular vote and only won many of the ridings it won because Wild Rose took so many votes away from the PC party in the first place.

 

I know I'm very scared of having the NDP party leading the province in which I reside, I know I'll be taxed more to support those single parents with children whom have those children because they couldn't bother to use protection and seldom work full time jobs enjoying government subsidization now they'll get even more subsidy while I will be making less.  The scarier part is even though I am not in the oil and gas industry, where I live everything depends on the oil and gas industry.  Having the projects shut down and seeing people move out of town means my rental properties are going to be harder to make money on, land value is going to go down.  Minimum wage will go up but top end wages will fall down as less jobs will be available.

 

There are a lot of other things that scare me with the NDP I hope to hell we can make it through these next four years.

[Noeller]

The sad thing is so many people were surprised that the NDP won in Alberta because they figured hey if I vote Wild Rose instead of PC that the Wild Rose party will win.  What happened is the two conservative parties (Wild Rose/PC) split the vote almost down the middle leading to an NDP majority.  Sadly NDP only got 41% of the popular vote and only won many of the ridings it won because Wild Rose took so many votes away from the PC party in the first place.

 

I know I'm very scared of having the NDP party leading the province in which I reside, I know I'll be taxed more to support those single parents with children whom have those children because they couldn't bother to use protection and seldom work full time jobs enjoying government subsidization now they'll get even more subsidy while I will be making less.  The scarier part is even though I am not in the oil and gas industry, where I live everything depends on the oil and gas industry.  Having the projects shut down and seeing people move out of town means my rental properties are going to be harder to make money on, land value is going to go down.  Minimum wage will go up but top end wages will fall down as less jobs will be available.

 

There are a lot of other things that scare me with the NDP I hope to hell we can make it through these next four years.

LOL! Wow....just wow...

[Tehedra]

 

The sad thing is so many people were surprised that the NDP won in Alberta because they figured hey if I vote Wild Rose instead of PC that the Wild Rose party will win.  What happened is the two conservative parties (Wild Rose/PC) split the vote almost down the middle leading to an NDP majority.  Sadly NDP only got 41% of the popular vote and only won many of the ridings it won because Wild Rose took so many votes away from the PC party in the first place.

 

I know I'm very scared of having the NDP party leading the province in which I reside, I know I'll be taxed more to support those single parents with children whom have those children because they couldn't bother to use protection and seldom work full time jobs enjoying government subsidization now they'll get even more subsidy while I will be making less.  The scarier part is even though I am not in the oil and gas industry, where I live everything depends on the oil and gas industry.  Having the projects shut down and seeing people move out of town means my rental properties are going to be harder to make money on, land value is going to go down.  Minimum wage will go up but top end wages will fall down as less jobs will be available.

 

There are a lot of other things that scare me with the NDP I hope to hell we can make it through these next four years.

LOL! Wow....just wow...

 

 

 

I'm sure you don't agree with the statement.  But I know many people who are on subsidy probably more than the average knows; and 85% of those that I know on subsidy choose the lifestyle they live and chose to not use protection to be single moms.   They work for a month or two then find a reason not to work; the government pays for them to get education, pays them to cover their rent, pays for them to buy groceries and yet they are always broke because at any one point doing the day you can show up at their house and find empty beers littering the front porch or kitchen table.   Yes I am sure there are the 15% of those whom are on subsidy because they were in an abusive relationship; or had some other criminal injustices performed to them but that is a small minority compared to those whom are taking advantage of the system. 

 

Then there are those who are single because they got divorced; they get to live in low in come housing; go on trips to mexico and the states at least once a year while the middle class income makers like myself get to work every day to pay for them to live those life styles. 

This is only one of the reasons why I dislike social governments like NDP.  Other reasons are those whom take advantage of the EI systems in those provinces that give them 75% of their wages; come up to Alberta and work on jobs like gravel and road crews; they make 60-70k during the summer months then go back home "out of work" during the winter months and get to collect EI.  Meanwhile the middle class person making between 35k to 70k that works all year round on a full time job gets to subsidize that EI income of the person making the same wage. 

 

[17to85]

it wasn't vote splitting that gave the NDP the win in Alberta. Oh sure you can add up the % of votes for the PC and WR and make that assumption, but that's lazy analysis and doesn't even attempt to look at the reasons for the election playing out the way it did. 

 

Go back to the previous election in Alberta, do you know why the PCs got the big majority they did? It's because the Liberals collapsed in a rush to prop up the PCs to keep the WR out. WR was gaining support and the left freaked out and added their voice to the PCs in the middle. So then Redford takes that big majority and slaps Albertans in the face with the arrogance and entitlement. People were livid at the PCs and Prentice didn't do anything to make people think they'd changed. 

 

The WR should have been poised to win then right? Everyone was going to bail on the PCs for the WR? No because Prentice grifted Danielle Smith but good and got her and a bunch of others to cross the floor and join the PC party. That told people that the WR were no different than the PCs and both parties took a hit in the popularity because of it. The WR was really scrambling to do damage control this past election.

 

So what you have is a bunch of people very unhappy with the PCs, not trusting the WR after the party tore themselves apart looking for a place to vote. The Liberal party couldn't even field candidates in every riding, they had a ton of issues of their own and never had a chance. So who was left? The miniscule Alberta Party that not many people know about who again can't field candidates in every riding?

 

Prentice killed the WR in the short term at very least and thought that his only competition was the WR so a quick election call would carry him to another majority. He spat in the face of Albertans with the budget and dared them to vote for someone else. The province took that dare and threw the PCs arrogance and entitlement in their faces. 

 

Now we see what happens. Notley has some challenges considering the overwhelming lack of experience in her caucus and a province that is still right leaning fiscally regardless of this election. She's gotta keep the extreme parts of her party in the middle where she campaigned and play nice with the corporate world. It's an uphill battle and depending on what the right does with itself it might get even harder. There is a chance here that the PCs might be finished, it will then be up to the WR to rally the right around their banner, but that's a challenge as well given what happened to them. Maybe the PCs can recover, but this is a pretty significant blow to them. Interesting 5 years ahead, but I do know this, Notley isn't going to do anything too crazy this term. They're still in the proving themselves to Alberta phase. They come in and upset the apple cart entirely Albertans will throw them out on their asses the first chance they get. 

[kelownabomberfan]

Interesting 5 years ahead, but I do know this, Notley isn't going to do anything too crazy this term. They're still in the proving themselves to Alberta phase. They come in and upset the apple cart entirely Albertans will throw them out on their asses the first chance they get.

Spoken like someone who has never had to endure an NDP government. You are applying logic and reason to radical zealots. I agree that the smart thing to do is slow and steady and do nothing stupid/radical to change how things are done in Alberta. But this is the NDP. They don't understand cause and effect, or consequences. You raise taxes dramatically, it causes all of this money to flow in, right? That's what their college professors told them anyway. Few if any of them have run a business or participated in real life outside of cosy union jobs or government-funded academia. So yes, I would hope that Notley moves slow. She seems to have a level head. It's her 50 or so radical MLA's that she will have to try and control. Good luck with that.

 

Lorne Gunter: NDP lineup full of radicals 334

First posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 06:31 PM MDT |

Welcome to the NDP caucus. Last month you were university students, community workers, fitness instructors, knitters and accordion enthusiasts. But you lent your names to the cause so your party could have a candidate in every riding in Alberta and now, thanks to Tuesday’s Orange Chinook, you’re MLAs!

Do any of you know anything about small-town historical societies? We need a new Minister of Culture.

Many Albertans were troubled by a couple of Wildrose extremists in the 2012 election, so they clung to the Tories for comfort. But this time they were finally so fed-up with Alberta’s ruling dynasty they overlooked the radicals in the New Democrats’ lineup.

Take Rod Loyola, for example. The head of the non-academic staff union at the University of Alberta is the new NDP MLA for Edmonton-Ellerslie – and a huge admirer of the late Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez.

Loyola came to Canada from Chile in the 1970s. Got a degree, made a family and a successful life. Active in his community. Good Canadian story.

But then there’s this whole adoration for the colonel/dictator of Venezuela.

Put aside, Chavez’s nationalizing of key industries and his draconian land reforms. Both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch criticized Chavez for locking up opponents, shutting down news organizations that dared disagree with him and expelling international rights workers.

Loyola’s willingness to make excuses for Chavez’s human rights abuses because he shared Chavez’s socialist dream says a lot about his political judgment.

And Notley’s caucus is full of folks with similarly out-there political views. The premier-elect may be a mostly moderate social democrat. But she is going to have a chore keeping a lid on her Pandora’s box of a caucus.

Notley has said she is in favour of two of the three major pipelines proposed to take Alberta bitumen to international markets: Energy East and Keystone, but not Northern Gateway to the B.C. coast.

She even wants a refinery built in Alberta to upgrade some of our bitumen here and add value to it before it is shipped elsewhere.

But a large chunk of her caucus are fervent believers in the global warming theory. She will have trouble convincing them to go along because they believe the extraction and use of fossil fuels is a crime against humanity.

That means, when the price of oil recovers, it will be harder to attract investment back to Alberta.

Expect a Green Energy Act in Alberta, like the one that has crippled Ontario industry since 2009 by driving up electricity prices 40% or more and wasting billions of tax dollars without reducing emissions.

That will mean government revenues will not recover as quickly as Notley hopes, which will mean her planned 20% increase to corporate taxes will not generate enough to pay for her health and education spending promises, which means her pledge not to raise personal taxes on those making below $100,000 will be out the window, too. (Because you know her spending plans will not give way so you can keep more money in your pocket.)

I even foresee the Alberta equivalent of “Rae Days.”

In 1990, Ontario surprisingly elected a majority NDP government under Bob Rae. It, too, tried to keep social spending high through higher taxes and deficit spending until that crashed the Ontario economy and the provincial government ran out of cash. Then it turned on its union supporters and forced most public-sector workers to take unpaid days off to save budget dollars. The resulting widespread labour unrest contributed to the Rae NDP’s ouster in 1995.

Every politically correct issue from human rights commissions to what kids can bring in school lunches is going to get a boost from the election of Alberta’s new lefty government.

Get ready for a bumpy ride.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/05/06/lorne-gunter-ndp-lineup-full-of-radicals

 

 

[Mr Dee]

The sad thing is so many people were surprised that the NDP won in Alberta because they figured hey if I vote Wild Rose instead of PC that the Wild Rose party will win.  What happened is the two conservative parties (Wild Rose/PC) split the vote almost down the middle leading to an NDP majority.  Sadly NDP only got 41% of the popular vote and only won many of the ridings it won because Wild Rose took so many votes away from the PC party in the first place.

 

I know I'm very scared of having the NDP party leading the province in which I reside, I know I'll be taxed more to support those single parents with children whom have those children because they couldn't bother to use protection and seldom work full time jobs enjoying government subsidization now they'll get even more subsidy while I will be making less.  The scarier part is even though I am not in the oil and gas industry, where I live everything depends on the oil and gas industry.  Having the projects shut down and seeing people move out of town means my rental properties are going to be harder to make money on, land value is going to go down.  Minimum wage will go up but top end wages will fall down as less jobs will be available.

 

There are a lot of other things that scare me with the NDP I hope to hell we can make it through these next four years.

What scares me is your post...

[Fatty Liver]

The sad thing is so many people were surprised that the NDP won in Alberta because they figured hey if I vote Wild Rose instead of PC that the Wild Rose party will win.  What happened is the two conservative parties (Wild Rose/PC) split the vote almost down the middle leading to an NDP majority.  Sadly NDP only got 41% of the popular vote and only won many of the ridings it won because Wild Rose took so many votes away from the PC party in the first place.

 

I know I'm very scared of having the NDP party leading the province in which I reside, I know I'll be taxed more to support those single parents with children whom have those children because they couldn't bother to use protection and seldom work full time jobs enjoying government subsidization now they'll get even more subsidy while I will be making less.  The scarier part is even though I am not in the oil and gas industry, where I live everything depends on the oil and gas industry.  Having the projects shut down and seeing people move out of town means my rental properties are going to be harder to make money on, land value is going to go down.  Minimum wage will go up but top end wages will fall down as less jobs will be available.

 

There are a lot of other things that scare me with the NDP I hope to hell we can make it through these next four years.

 

Simple solution to ridding Alberta of this social menace, sterilization. When these single mothers come in to collect their welfare bounty, have them zapped.  Might as well do their rug-rats at the same time to help break the cycle of poverty and despair and further protect Alberta from infestation down the road.