Ducky Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Posted July 4, 2015 They probably won't but they COULD send Ehlers to play in Europe.
Goalie Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 I don't think they will make their decision based on if ehlers needs to go to the Q or not, They will make their decision on which guys are ready... maybe both Ehlers and Petan make the big club, maybe one does, maybe neither do... We will have to see but... I hope they aren't basing that decision on If Ehlers isn't on the JETs he needs to be in junior or europe. That's not good. I think one will make the team and it will be the one who is ready, regardless of his age or his junior eligibility or not. If Petan is better than Ehlers then he makes it and Ehlers goes to Europe or back to the Q. Some of my friends have went and have made a couple interesting comments, one being Petan definitely is the most NHL ready guy on the ice, They then say It's not Ehlers who is next, It's Brendan Lemieux, They say Ehlers has struggled a bit, probably hasn't skated in a while but... They all definitely say that Petan and Lemieux are the guys who are standing out big time. One even said, despite his size, Petan is a man amongst boys. I wouldn't be surprised if Ehlers is sent back to the Q or Europe for another year, Jets won't rush him if he's not ready. He's a good prospect but... Petan might be better. Ehlers gets all the hype but a few people have mentioned that he's put on some weight this off-season, he's apparently 14 pounds heavier than last year... It seems to be hurting his game on the ice a bit... It's like Morrissey last year, Lots of people thought he'd make it, he came in looking huge, looked pumped really but... put on the weight the wrong way and it messed with his game, From all accounts Morrissey has looked very good because he's dropped that weight he put on or did it a better pace this past season. We will see with Ehlers but it wouldn't surprise me if he's not on the Jets and Petan and Lemieux both are.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 4, 2015 Report Posted July 4, 2015 One even said, despite his size, Petan is a man amongst boys. Yeah I had that same impression watching him captain the Winterhawks.
Goalie Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Ehlers,Lemieux,Petan,Morrissey,Copp will probably all be on the roster this year one way or another. If the Kids look like they are ready, you can always trade some guys to make room for them. Do we need both thorburn and peluso? Lemieux could probably take their spot. Ladd,Little,Stafford Ehlers,Scheif,Wheeler Perreault,Lowry,Petan Lemieux,Copp,Burmistrov. Some might say thats too many rookies but...if the rookies are ready, you play them.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 New blood always generates excitement for fans as the future potential is unlimited, at least in the fans' minds. I remember how excited the fans were when an 18 year old Dale Hawerchuk showed up in 1981. I also remember how pumped everyone was when Selanne and Tkachuk showed up in the 1990's. Rookies mean hope. For the future.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Great article on Burni. He here and staying all summer. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Burmistrov-hits-the-ice-with-rookies-at-camp-311678191.html New_Earth_Mud 1
Ducky Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Posted July 5, 2015 http://video.jets.nhl.com/videocenter/ His interview is here and so is some interesting insights and opinions on players by Keith McCambridge. What he said in brief. By his comments on Armia, he probably isn't ready yet. Too inconsistent. Big upside. Kosmachuk took a while to learn the pro game but is coming around and had a good 2nd half. Poolman (looks more like a pro) and Harkins look strong. Petan, Lemieux, Petan, Comrie and Hellebuyck all looked good. Is Morrissey at the camp?
Ducky Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Posted July 5, 2015 Players at camp Goalies 30 Connor Hellebuyck 22 5th round 2012 St John’s IceCaps (AHL) 35 James Kruger 23 free agent Dartmouth College (ECAC) 50 Jamie Phillips 22 7th round 2012 Michigan Tech (WCHA) 60 Eric Comrie 19 2nd round, 2013 Tri-City, (WHL) Defencemen 36 Josh Morrissey 20 1st round, 2013 Kelowna (WHL) 53 Jan Kostalek 20 4th round, 2013 Rimouski (QMJHL) 54 Tucker Poolman 22 5th rd, 2013 North Dakota (NCAA) 62 Nelson Nogier 19 4th round, 2014 Saskatoon, Red Deer (WHL) 78 Craig Dalrymple 24 free agent Ohio State (NCAA) 81 Brennan Serville 22 3rd round, 2011 Michigan (NCAA) 83 Sami Niku 18 7th round, 2015 JYP-Akatemia (Finland) 88 Troy Stetcher 21 free agent North Dakota (NCAA) 90 Marcus Karlstrom 20 free agent Mora IK (Sweden) 92 Nolan Valleau 22 free agent Bowling Green (NCAA) Forwards 38 Nic Petan 20 2nd round, 2013 Portland (WHL) 40 Joel Armia 22 1st round, 2011 Rochester, St. John’s (AHL) 41 Kyle Connor 18 1st round, 2015 Youngstown (USHL) 42 Nik Ehlers 19 1st round, 2014 Halifax (QMJHL) 45 Jimmy Lodge 20 3rd round, 2013 Mississauga (OHL) 48 Brendan Lemieux 19 2nd round, 2014 Barrie (OHL) 51 Andrew Copp 20 4th round, 2014 Michigan (NCAA) 52 Jack Roslovic 18 1st round, 2015 U.S. U-18 56 Jansen Harkins 18 2nd round, 2015 Prince George (WHL) 63 Erik Foley 18 3rd round, 2015 Cedar Rapids (USHL) 64 Nolan Laporte 23 free agent Western Michigan (NCAA) 65 Axel Blomqvist 20 signed free agent Moose Jaw (WHL) 68 Ryan Olsen 21 6th round, 2012 St. John’s (AHL) 72 Scott Kosmachuk 21 3rd round, 2012 St. John’s (AHL) 73 C.J. Franklin 21 5th round, 2014 Mankato (NCAA) 74 Matt Ustaski 21 7th round, 2014 Wisconsin (NCAA) 77 Chase De Leo 19 4th round, 2014 Portland (WHL) 80 Michael Spacek 18 4th round, 2015 Pardubice (Czech) 82 Mason Appleton 19 6th round, 2015 Tri-City (USHL) 87 Tanner Lane 22 6th round, 2010 Nebraska-Omaha (NCAA) 89 Matteao Gennaro 18 7th round, 2015 Prince Albert (WHL) 94 Brandon Denham 23 free agent Robert Morris (NCAA) 95 Landon Smith 21 free agent Quinnipiac (NCAA) 96 Daniel Leavens 22 free agent Robert Morris (NCAA) 97 Bradley Schierhorn 22 free agent Dartmouth College (NCAA) 98 Tyler Morley 23 free agent Alaska-Fairbanks (NCAA)
The Unknown Poster Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder if Armia will need more time in the Jets system to reach his potential. Did the Buffalo system suck or Something?
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Once more unto the breach it must be said,,,he could not make the Sabres.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 I like the name Tucker Poolman. Cool name. Big kid too! FrostyWinnipeg 1
kelownabomberfan Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 I watched the video of the kid who was mic'ed up. Looked like Lemieux was owning him in the one on one drills. Too bad about Armia.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Will Burmi still be an RFA at the end of his deal?
Ducky Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Posted July 5, 2015 Will Burmi still be an RFA at the end of his deal? yup
Goalie Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Good on Burmi. Very cool of him to show up early. Morrissey has been good. He's a solid d man. Armia didn't make buffalo cuz they were tanking. It's not that he couldn't make the team.
Floyd Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/07/06/left-winger-cj-franklin-is-a-late-bloomer-who-has-taken-big-strides-since-being-drafted-by-winnipeg-jets Interesting, didn't know he was on the radar
kelownabomberfan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 just watched a bit of the scrimmage online. Man there are some big kids out there. Denham - not sure who that is - he's massive! He stripped Franklin of the puck and then set up Spacek for the winning goal in overtime.
Ducky Posted July 8, 2015 Author Report Posted July 8, 2015 1st Line: Ladd - Little - Wheeler2nd Line: Perreault - Scheifele - Stafford3rd Line: Ehlers/Lemiex? - Lowry - Armia4th Line: Petan - Burmi - Thorburn extra: Hali, Peluso, J. C. Lipon, Copp 1st pairing: Enstrom - Myers2nd pairing: Trouba - Buff3rd pairing: Chiarot - Postmaextras: Stuart, Pardy, Harrison, Morrissey? Goalies: Pavelec, Hutchinson, or Hellebuyck. The best should start.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 The Big Show guys were talking about the issue of "skilled" forwards at traditionally "grinder" positions and the move towards smaller players with skill. But to me, for Petan to play on the 4th line it would mean a complete change in how the 4th line is used and it's purpose. If they play 5 minutes a game, is that enough for Petan to develop as opposed to playing 1st line minutes and conditions on the Moose? I know people are saying Armia looked good at the development camp. If anything we might have "too many" 3rd line guys. Will Burmi or Armia drop to the 4th? I have a hard time thinking Burmi will. I think he'd excel in that role but wouldnt be enough minutes unless, like Buff playing forward, its augmented with special teams play. I could see Armia maybe playing 4RW as he is big and uses his size in his playmaking. But again, is 4th line better for the player than top six with the moose? Could Lowry and Burmi switch places? Its going to be interesting.
Rich Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 I don't think Petan will stick with the club if he is put on the 4th line. He will be better served getting top line minutes with the Moose. However, the only way I could see it happening, is if Maurice goes with a big change in how the 4th line is used. No doubt that the Jets early playoff exit was in part to injury and the amount of minutes the top line guys logged. It was often a story about how little the Jets 4th line is used when compared to some of the other teams with better depth like St Louis. I wonder if they put more skilled guys down there, if they don't get more playing time. A possibility, but I find it an unlikely scenario.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 Burmi-Copp-Armia (Thorburn) would be a darn good 4th line. Im sure this wont play into it but from a business perspective, Petan/Armia etc playing big minutes for the Moose is better for drawing fans then playing 4th line with the Jets. The Moose has the potential to be a darned exciting team.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing Armia, Petan, Morrissey and De Leo all called up during the season to see what they can do. Lemieux is still eligible for another year of junior no? Same with Ehlers?
Atomic Posted July 9, 2015 Report Posted July 9, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing Armia, Petan, Morrissey and De Leo all called up during the season to see what they can do. Lemieux is still eligible for another year of junior no? Same with Ehlers? I thought Lemieux was done but I could be wrong. Anyways according to reports from development camp he looks like one of our most "ready" prospects.
Ducky Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Posted July 9, 2015 He has one year left but I expect to see him with the moose in the fall.
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