SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Posted October 28, 2017 15 hours ago, pigseye said: Didn't they replace all the writers after the first year of TNG? Thought I heard that somewhere before. Maybe the Discovery will pick up but I don't think it will hold my interest that long. Well, it'll hold my interest.
The Unknown Poster Posted October 28, 2017 Author Report Posted October 28, 2017 I think it was Michael Piller being brought in for season 2 of TNG that changed the game. berman gained power and brought Piller in. Gene lost power.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 28, 2017 Report Posted October 28, 2017 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: I think it was Michael Piller being brought in for season 2 of TNG that changed the game. berman gained power and brought Piller in. Gene lost power. Also new S2 Doc better then S1 Doc.
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Also new S2 Doc better then S1 Doc. The doctor in the second season of TNG played by Diana Mauldaur was a *****. Edited October 29, 2017 by SpeedFlex27
Logan007 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/28/2017 at 11:50 PM, SpeedFlex27 said: The doctor in the second season of TNG played by Diana Mauldaur was a *****. Yeah. I mean she was ok, but I much preferh Beverly.
SPuDS Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 just watched last weeks episode last night, dunno what all the fuss was about it. I enjoyed it, thought it was well done.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 31, 2017 Report Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, SPuDS said: just watched last weeks episode last night, dunno what all the fuss was about it. I enjoyed it, thought it was well done. How bout that scene before the opening credits?
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Posted November 2, 2017 Time loop. Direct steal from TNG. Logan007 1
The Unknown Poster Posted November 2, 2017 Author Report Posted November 2, 2017 10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Time loop. Direct steal from TNG. Can you steal from yourself? Steal implies a negative. Clearly a homage. Fun episode too!
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 2, 2017 Report Posted November 2, 2017 17 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Time loop. Direct steal from TNG. 6 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Can you steal from yourself? Steal implies a negative. Clearly a homage. Fun episode too! Agreed- really fun episode. I am really digging this Star Trek. I thought the looping reminded me more of Dr. Strange. Regardless- I really enjoyed the episode.
bustamente Posted November 2, 2017 Report Posted November 2, 2017 I find this version of Star Trek is growing on me, enjoyed last weeks episode, characters are starting to get some personalities SPuDS 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Posted November 3, 2017 10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Can you steal from yourself? Steal implies a negative. Clearly a homage. Fun episode too! Steal in the sense of plot. The Enterprise was caught in a time loop as well on an episode of TNG. Same idea. I mean, I didn't mind the episode but if authors, songwriters, journalists & students can be accused of plagiarism then why can't writers of a tv serie? I didn't say it was a negative but if people interpret it that way, oh well. BTW, I like Star Trek: Discovery so everyone cool their jets. I just raised the point that an episode of TNG had a similar plot. Logan007 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Agreed- really fun episode. I am really digging this Star Trek. I thought the looping reminded me more of Dr. Strange. Regardless- I really enjoyed the episode. Different writers, different directors, different producers, different actors, different series so it's not stealing from yourself.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Posted November 3, 2017 11 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Can you steal from yourself?
Logan007 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Posted November 3, 2017 Yeah, this last episode almost felt like an actual episode of Star Trek where there was actual human interaction and it wasn't the whole "Federation vs Klingons". The Unknown Poster and SPuDS 2
The Unknown Poster Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Posted November 3, 2017 13 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Steal in the sense of plot. The Enterprise was caught in a time loop as well on an episode of TNG. Same idea. I mean, I didn't mind the episode but if authors, songwriters, journalists & students can be accused of plagiarism then why can't writers of a tv serie? I didn't say it was a negative but if people interpret it that way, oh well. BTW, I like Star Trek: Discovery so everyone cool their jets. I just raised the point that an episode of TNG had a similar plot. It wasnt plagerism because there was no effort to pass someones work off as their own. And it only had general similarities to the TNG episode Cause & Effect, that being a repeated time loop. How it was caused, how it was resolved and how everyone acted within it was completely different. It would be like saying you can only do one time travel episode because its now done and everyone else is stealing. And since CBS owns everything regardless of writer, director etc, if they did steal it would be from themselves. I get what you're saying but its sort of a staple of Trek to do "time" episodes (time travel, time loops, time jumps). I actually liked how they spent little time on examining the how of the situation and just went into trying to work through it. And apparently "Time Crystals" are a thing... SPuDS 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Logan007 said: Yeah, this last episode almost felt like an actual episode of Star Trek where there was actual human interaction and it wasn't the whole "Federation vs Klingons". Did not like it. Time loop been done. No scene before opening credits. Another space traveling creature. And what of the Admiral? Nada mention. Edited November 3, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg SPuDS 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: It wasnt plagerism because there was no effort to pass someones work off as their own. And it only had general similarities to the TNG episode Cause & Effect, that being a repeated time loop. How it was caused, how it was resolved and how everyone acted within it was completely different. It would be like saying you can only do one time travel episode because its now done and everyone else is stealing. And since CBS owns everything regardless of writer, director etc, if they did steal it would be from themselves. I get what you're saying but its sort of a staple of Trek to do "time" episodes (time travel, time loops, time jumps). I actually liked how they spent little time on examining the how of the situation and just went into trying to work through it. And apparently "Time Crystals" are a thing... I never quite figured out how the original Enterprise could travel back in time looping around the sun considering they'd be going so fast it would pass them by starting from Earth orbit to the sun in microseconds. Whereas on TOS they had about 10 actual minutes to do it. It's Trek, it doesn't need a logical explanation, I guess. Since it's time travel just about anything could explain it, I guess. Edited November 4, 2017 by SpeedFlex27
The Unknown Poster Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Posted November 4, 2017 16 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I never quite figured out how the original Enterprise could travel back in time looping around the sun considering they'd be going so fast it would pass them by starting from Earth orbit to the sun in microseconds. Whereas on TOS they had about 10 actual minutes to do it. It's Trek, it doesn't need a logical explanation, I guess. Since it's time travel just about anything could explain it, I guess. Yeah they take a lot of theoretical science and make it work. Or just make things up. Lol the slingshot around the sun was based on the idea that warp 10 was an unachievable speed at which you’d be moving faster than time and be stuck in an infinite time loop. To get there they used the gravity of the sun to slingshot the ship to that speed. In Trek IV they did it and the key thing was programming breaking thrusters to fire and take them out of the time loop at the right moment. When they’re in the time travel sequence you can actually hear dialogue from later in the film.
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 What do they call it on Trek? Quantum Time Mechanics?
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 Read that The Orville has been renewed by Fox. Is it just me or are the plots getting a little more serious with less campy jokes?
tacklewasher Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Read that The Orville has been renewed by Fox. Is it just me or are the plots getting a little more serious with less campy jokes? It is getting better, in my opinion. I think they figured out they are not Galaxy Quest. Mind you, the statue humping was out of place.
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, tacklewasher said: It is getting better, in my opinion. I think they figured out they are not Galaxy Quest. Mind you, the statue humping was out of place. The only thing about that particular episode was Lamarr didn't learn anything about what he did. In the end, he was still the same jerk that he was before it happened. Actor J Lee plays John Lamarr character like he's an asshat. If anything, he should have learned about being grateful & humble which never happened. I have a feeling if they had used a white crew member in that episode it would have been different. Edited November 5, 2017 by SpeedFlex27
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Posted November 11, 2017 So, what did anyone think of last night's episode of The Orville? I found it absolutely cringeworthy.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 11, 2017 Report Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: So, what did anyone think of last night's episode of The Orville? I found it absolutely cringeworthy. Good description.
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