Logan007 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Posted December 2, 2019 OMG, this is a terrible idea. Can't they come up with their own original ideas and stop rehashing?
FrostyWinnipeg Posted December 2, 2019 Report Posted December 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, Logan007 said: OMG, this is a terrible idea. Can't they come up with their own original ideas and stop rehashing? Like Beyond?
Logan007 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Posted December 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Like Beyond? That one wasn't too bad.
The Unknown Poster Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Posted December 2, 2019 I’m of two minds. If you’re doing a film in that timeline I think fans do want callbacks. So if you’re involving Klingons why not use someone we know. but it illustrates how ill advised the kelvin timeline really is. The guys that conceived it insisted it would free them canon but all they do is use canon over and over again. The “new canon” is only to explain away their bad writing. there is nothing they have done that couldn’t be done without a new universe. I also think If they want to squeeze some more dimes out of kelvin and this cast, use every trick in the book. What works for Trek? Time travel. Revenge plot. Universe in jeopardy. Original actors. use the next film to “fix” the timeline. Use Shatner. Time travel. And connect it to the prime CBS Trek universe going forward. Logan007 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted December 2, 2019 Report Posted December 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: use the next film to “fix” the timeline. Use Shatner. Time travel. And connect it to the prime CBS Trek universe going forward. great idea The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: great idea There are rumours it was writer Bob Orci’s idea for what became Trek Beyond. I think he said he didn’t fix the timeline. But he had Nimoy & Shatner in it. With CBS having so much Trek now and the unified movie/tv universe it makes sense for one group to do both. And bad robot wasn’t so hot. Let cbs produce the movies. Logan007 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 https://www.twincities.com/2019/12/09/mounds-theatre-stages-its-an-honorable-life-a-klingon-variation-of-the-classic-film/ The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Posted December 20, 2019 New teaser Logan007 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Posted January 8, 2020 Story from Variety (per Trekmovie.com). Some minor spoilers about general plot points. Quote Variety gives an overview of the state of the galaxy when Star Trek: Picard starts: Picard finds its hero living in near-isolation on a very un-cosmic French vineyard. He is retired and estranged from Starfleet, the interstellar navy to which he devoted most of his life. He’s haunted by a pair of catastrophes, one personal, the other societal — the death of his android colleague Lt. Cmdr. Data and a refugee crisis spawned by the destruction of the planet Romulus. When those two seemingly disparate strands of his life cross, Picard returns to action, this time without the backing of a Starfleet whose moral center has shifted. Picard is still haunted by the loss of Data, as seen in a dream sequence from recent trailers. Patrick Stewart was initially reluctant to return to the role of Jean-Luc Picard, eventually the 34-page pitch Alex Kurtzman, Kirsten Beyer, and Michael Chabon wrote swayed him. Stewart came on not only as an actor, but also as an executive producer with input on the storylines for the show. CBS Trek head honcho Alex Kurtzman said of working with Sir Patrick: He is uninterested in repeating himself, everything he does is filled with innate integrity. He fights for the things he believes in. And he’s very willing to collaborate once you’re on the same wavelength. Stewart explained his point of view on the new TV show: I think what we’re trying to say is important, the world of Next Generation doesn’t exist anymore. It’s different. Nothing is really safe. Nothing is really secure. In a way, the world of Next Generation had been too perfect and too protected, it was the Enterprise. It was a safe world of respect and communication and care and, sometimes, fun. Mirroring real world 21st century events, the Federation of the late 24th century has become more isolationist. Stewart says that this aspect of Picard, “was me responding to the world of Brexit and Trump and feeling, ‘Why hasn’t the Federation changed? Why hasn’t Starfleet changed?’ Maybe they’re not as reliable and trustworthy as we all thought.”
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Posted January 8, 2020 On 2019-12-20 at 11:58 AM, The Unknown Poster said: New teaser CBS has blocked it.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 8, 2020 Author Report Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: CBS has blocked it. Just do a search. That one I posted worked at the time but there will be region-free ones avail.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 8, 2020 Report Posted January 8, 2020 https://deadline.com/2019/12/star-trek-picard-renewed-season-two-patrick-stewart-cbs-all-access-1202809964 The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 Reading this makes me cautiously optimistic. Saying all the right things anyway. From Latino review : Since the last Star Trek movie didn’t perform that well at the box office, the future of the franchise on film has been sketchy at best. Setting the Quentin Tarantino aside, we have not had an idea of when we might see the next Trek movie appear, however, we learned back in November that Noah Hawley would be on writing/directing duties for the fourth modern Star Trek movie. Nothing was known about whether this movie would be a sort of reboot, or whether the cast of the Bad Robot Star Trek movies would be making a return. Hawley recently spoke with Deadline about his upcoming projects and it’s still not clear how he will shape this new movie. I have my own take on Star Trek,” said Hawley when asked if the sequel will feature the most recent film’s cast, “and going back to what I loved about the series Next Generation, when a lot of franchises focus on ‘might makes right’, Star Trek is about exploration and humanity at its best, and diversity and creative problem solving. There’s nothing better than that moment when William Shatner puts on his reading glasses and lowers Khan’s shields. It doesn’t cost anything. But it’s that triumphant feeling about smarting your enemy. For me it’s about to getting to those elements of the show. I don’t necessarily find action in and of itself interesting unless it’s story. So, it’s early days, I’m still talking with Paramount and I have a take and I gotta write a script.” As to whether it will connect with the TV work of Alex Kurtzman, “I should. I know Alex. There isn’t a mandate from Paramount to connect it. And on some levels, there’s a bit of the wall, the TV version and the film version. I have my own story and want to make sure as I did with Fargo and Legion that I’m respectful to the underlying material. That I’m not unintentionally changing things that people love or feel passionate about. So, it’s important to do that research as I go.” Logan007 1
Logan007 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Reading this makes me cautiously optimistic. Saying all the right things anyway. From Latino review : Since the last Star Trek movie didn’t perform that well at the box office, the future of the franchise on film has been sketchy at best. Setting the Quentin Tarantino aside, we have not had an idea of when we might see the next Trek movie appear, however, we learned back in November that Noah Hawley would be on writing/directing duties for the fourth modern Star Trek movie. Nothing was known about whether this movie would be a sort of reboot, or whether the cast of the Bad Robot Star Trek movies would be making a return. Hawley recently spoke with Deadline about his upcoming projects and it’s still not clear how he will shape this new movie. I have my own take on Star Trek,” said Hawley when asked if the sequel will feature the most recent film’s cast, “and going back to what I loved about the series Next Generation, when a lot of franchises focus on ‘might makes right’, Star Trek is about exploration and humanity at its best, and diversity and creative problem solving. There’s nothing better than that moment when William Shatner puts on his reading glasses and lowers Khan’s shields. It doesn’t cost anything. But it’s that triumphant feeling about smarting your enemy. For me it’s about to getting to those elements of the show. I don’t necessarily find action in and of itself interesting unless it’s story. So, it’s early days, I’m still talking with Paramount and I have a take and I gotta write a script.” As to whether it will connect with the TV work of Alex Kurtzman, “I should. I know Alex. There isn’t a mandate from Paramount to connect it. And on some levels, there’s a bit of the wall, the TV version and the film version. I have my own story and want to make sure as I did with Fargo and Legion that I’m respectful to the underlying material. That I’m not unintentionally changing things that people love or feel passionate about. So, it’s important to do that research as I go.” Well it's always good when someone who is a faithful fan of the show does the work and talks the talk. Let's just hope he can walk the walk.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) If no Tarantino then i think the JJ films are done. Don't see Pine or Saldana really wanting another one. Course they could wait until they done making WW/GotG movies. See you in 2025! Edited January 10, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg
The Unknown Poster Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Posted January 11, 2020 16 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: If no Tarantino then i think the JJ films are done. Don't see Pine or Saldana really wanting another one. Course they could wait until they done making WW/GotG movies. See you in 2025! Based on the director's comments it seems like his idea involves a new cast. It makes sense because Pine isnt even under a 4th movie deal now. Paramount wanted blockbuster revenue and spent blockbuster money but it just didnt work out. Trek can work and be a big deal but it cant be a a gigantic budget. Id be surprised if the next film isnt tied to the TV in some way, even if its just as producers and utilizing some of the people involved (set design, costuming, effects etc). I love that he referenced William Shatner. Any idea I'd pitch the studio would include Shatner as Kirk while he is still with us. And I think there is many ways to do it without over-using him or over-taxing him. Something akin to Luke in TFA, but a bit more obviously. Actually Luke in TLJ and RoS are good examples as he was arguably the biggest character in Star Wars (aside from Vader) but didnt have much screen time. Shatner has said its isnt so much about screen time as importance of screen time.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 13, 2020 Author Report Posted January 13, 2020 One has to be a Pike series
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 13, 2020 Report Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: One has to be a Pike series Starfleet Academy maybe? It's a whole lot of Trek and we all know how it got burned out in the 90s by too much.
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Posted January 13, 2020 A Pike series would do well. It would be anticipated by fans.
Logan007 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Posted January 13, 2020 14 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: One has to be a Pike series I would totally be down for a Pike series. I loved Pike and it wouldn't mess with the continuity as much as redoing the Kirk series. I could care less about Section 31 though. I'm not a fan of how they used them in the last season. They're supposed to be secretive and yet they were making waves all over the place. They just didn't feel covert enough for me.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 13, 2020 Author Report Posted January 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, Logan007 said: I would totally be down for a Pike series. I loved Pike and it wouldn't mess with the continuity as much as redoing the Kirk series. I could care less about Section 31 though. I'm not a fan of how they used them in the last season. They're supposed to be secretive and yet they were making waves all over the place. They just didn't feel covert enough for me. I also have no interest in a section 31 series, not based on what they’ve shown us in disco. The only weird thing with Pike series is the writers and producers of disco made such a big deal out of how they had to time Jump to the future to free themselves of canon. So doing a pike series sort of undermines that. And can they restrain themselves from screwing it up?
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 13, 2020 Report Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Starfleet Academy maybe? It's a whole lot of Trek and we all know how it got burned out in the 90s by too much. True- but the way series are formatted these days is a lot more palatable... having three series with 24,hour long episodes is a bit much and easily leads to fatigue... but these 1hr, 10 episode seasons are really good and always leaves you wanting more it iseems... I think this new serial format will go over very well... Edited January 13, 2020 by wanna-b-fanboy Logan007 and FrostyWinnipeg 2
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