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[Taynted_Fayth]

apparently 17 and unders can still see rated R movies with an accompying adult.  interesting.  I guess NC-17 (no one 17 or under at all) is pretty much reserved for just pornos

[The Unknown Poster]

3 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

apparently 17 and unders can still see rated R movies with an accompying adult.  interesting.  I guess NC-17 (no one 17 or under at all) is pretty much reserved for just pornos

Yes I believe R is "Minors must be accompanied by a parent".  And I noticed theatres check ID a lot more than they used to.  NC17 - no dice unless you're over 17 (ie. 18).  Not jporn though.  Porn would be Triple X.  NC17 was created because previously it would be X.  But that was the kiss of death because people saw "X" and assumed it was "Triple X".

A Clockwork Orange was originally rated X but now it's R (modern sensibilities I guess).  Unrated is NC17

Bad Lieutenant is NC17 also.  Blue Is The Warmest Color is NC17 (movie has a pretty hot extended explicit sex scene between two girls, one of whom was in the last James Bond film if I recall).

Blue Valentine was rated NC17 for oral sex on a woman but was appealed to an R rating.  Definitely didnt deserve NC17.

Body of Evidence was also NC17.  I assume for the oral sex scene.  Hmmm...seeing a trend.

The Dreamers is NC17.  I can see it.  Although I think its because of male nudity which isnt a huge issue in my opinion but the rating board is generally prudish.  Violence is ok but sex isnt.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Bad Lieutenant is NC17 also.

Drive away if Harvey Keitel pulls you over.

[Taynted_Fayth]

didnt they show some wang in play it to the bone with Antonio Banderas and Woody Harrelson?  I dont remember much of the movie cuz i was drinking OE's with my 3 buddies in the theater (we were like 17) and all i remember is my one kind of eccentric friend jumping out of his seat and yelling out "whoa whoa i didnt come here to see dinks on the screen" and he ran out of the theater.  2 of us finished the movie and the other guy passed out in the washroom, but i remember sinking in my seat trying not to be seen while buddy was flipping out.  that one only got a R rating

[The Unknown Poster]

Just now, Taynted_Fayth said:

didnt they show some wang in play it to the bone with Antonio Banderas and Woody Harrelson?  I dont remember much of the movie cuz i was drinking OE's with my 3 buddies in the theater (we were like 17) and all i remember is my one kind of eccentric friend jumping out of his seat and yelling out "whoa whoa i didnt come here to see dinks on the screen" and he ran out of the theater.  2 of us finished the movie and the other guy passed out in the washroom, but i remember sinking in my seat trying not to be seen while buddy was flipping out.  that one only got a R rating

lol!  Did he think he might develop a taste for it if he saw it?  My thought process is this, the more dink they show the better because it probably means we're getting some SERIOUS female nudity.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Surprise him with a Blu-ray of Bronson.

[Logan007]

Personally, I'd prefer if they don't do an R version of BvS.  Just sounds dumb to me.  Batman doesn't need to be that brutal.  And we really don't need to see blood flying all over the place.  These characters are meant for kids as well as adults, no need to adult everything up.  Cause you know stupid parents are going to let their little kids watch this.  I think our kids are desensitized enough as it is.  Regardless, I don't want to see an R rated version either.  Superman and Batman should be heroes, not Deadpool antiheroes.  Just my opinion though.

[Taynted_Fayth]

32 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

Personally, I'd prefer if they don't do an R version of BvS.  Just sounds dumb to me.  Batman doesn't need to be that brutal.  And we really don't need to see blood flying all over the place.  These characters are meant for kids as well as adults, no need to adult everything up.  Cause you know stupid parents are going to let their little kids watch this.  I think our kids are desensitized enough as it is.  Regardless, I don't want to see an R rated version either.  Superman and Batman should be heroes, not Deadpool antiheroes.  Just my opinion though.

I dont disagree with that but I do have 2 conflicting thoughts on the subject;

1. I cant imagine any scenario involving Superman, or Wonder Woman dropping Fbombs, slappin skin between the sheets or really being overly gorey that would really warrant an R-Rating.

2. Kid being as desensitized as they are,  might find a movie without edge too unappealing. It's a new day and age and kids dont easily eat up the fluff piece if you will. Blame the internet

[The Unknown Poster]

2 hours ago, Logan007 said:

Personally, I'd prefer if they don't do an R version of BvS.  Just sounds dumb to me.  Batman doesn't need to be that brutal.  And we really don't need to see blood flying all over the place.  These characters are meant for kids as well as adults, no need to adult everything up.  Cause you know stupid parents are going to let their little kids watch this.  I think our kids are desensitized enough as it is.  Regardless, I don't want to see an R rated version either.  Superman and Batman should be heroes, not Deadpool antiheroes.  Just my opinion though.

I agree it's meant for kids and adults. That's why kids can watch the reguakr release and adults can watch the R rated one of they choose. 

as an adult I can decide. I don't need someone to decide I don't need to see it

[Logan007]

17 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I dont disagree with that but I do have 2 conflicting thoughts on the subject;

1. I cant imagine any scenario involving Superman, or Wonder Woman dropping Fbombs, slappin skin between the sheets or really being overly gorey that would really warrant an R-Rating.

2. Kid being as desensitized as they are,  might find a movie without edge too unappealing. It's a new day and age and kids dont easily eat up the fluff piece if you will. Blame the internet

1. I never said it was going to have sex or F bombs...I said Batman doesn't need to be brutal and that we don't need blood flying all over the place.  I don't think they would put sex scenes into a DC Superhero movie or swear.  I'm guessing most of the R rating will be from someone like Batman kicking the living crap out of someone.  I'm just saying that's not necessary to entertain people.  Nolan's Batman movies were PG-13 and they had some pretty crazy violence in them without having to go overboard.  I've watched those dark DC Cartoons with Batman in them as well, and I find that when they go darker they just ruin that superhero vibe.

2. Kids don't need R rating to find edge, no one does really.  That's just a BS argument by the way.  I've watched R rated movies and I still love things like Pixar, Dreamworks, etc... that are low key, so saying because they've watched something with edge, that everything else would bore them is not a valid argument.  And I don't blame the internet, I blame the parents.

[The Unknown Poster]

What does kids have to do with an R rating.  The point of an R rating is that kids wont watch it.  Ofcourse some will, but that's their parent's problem, not mine.  If the arguing is we shouldnt have any R rated (or worse) films because a kid might see it, we're into the realm of censorship and craziness.

[Taynted_Fayth]

Maybe I'm just thinking of my own 11 year old, who would rather watch shows like the walking dead rather than the flash, and kids do make up a huge $ cow for superhero movies both at the box office and beyond with their merch. I just don't see how violence alone can net an R-rated sticker anymore unless were talking its some kind of a gore fest. Maybe I too am just too desensitized to violence to view it as a OMG type of thing anymore,  then again i like movies like house of 1000 corpses and the devils rejects.

And I don't blame most parents, there just too much to censor to keep your kids unaware of all things in the world. a big thing is the internet. Hell my kid has been interested in the news and even politics for a few years.  I remember him asking me what would possess a guy like Vince Li to eat parts of some kid on the bus a few years after the fact. Am i supposed to ban him from watching the news? I do watch movies i think he might like ahead of time and make a conscience decision whether its suitable or not,  such as deadpool,  which i know he wants to watch really bad, but i said not till hes older. That won't stop him from seeing it one way or another, but I just won't be that access to seeing it.  I got in a lot of **** for letting him watch Zombieland when he was 8 - my thought process is when i was 8 i was already up to no good and thought he could handle it.  He could... but his mom thought otherwise, even though she lets him watch the child's play movies (hypocritical ***** lol). I did however learn a lesson in there that sometimes i gotta stop trying to be the cool buddy dad and more of a better choice dad and since have really tried to limit the negative stuff he's exposed to when around me.  But i can't compete with TV, the internet, print media and society (friends/school) and thats just life.  He's got quite the opinion on the american election and the garbage Trump spews out, is watching batman kick the crap out of someone really the worst thing that kids can see lol

 

** Speaking of Zombieland just read this

[Taynted_Fayth]

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It’s been close to five years since Zombieland saw Jesse Eisenberg, Woody Harrelson, Emma Stone and Abigail Breslin’s zombie-hunters prowl across the Southern states trying to find a new home. Most people assumed that a long-touted sequel would never materialize, but now Sony Pictures have surprisingly announced several details that suggest they’re taking a potential follow-up very seriously. 

According to Deadline, Dave Callaham has now been hired to script the follow-up, and he will be advised and supervised by Ruben Fleischer - the first Zombieland's director, who is hoping to return to that seat. Callaham has had a topsy-turvy couple of years. His script for Barrow turned into The Expendables, but only after he suedSylvester Stallone for credit, and while he wrote the first draft for the Godzilla reboot, it eventually was extensively re-written by Max Borenstein. Zombieland 2 will hopefully give him a chance to truly inject his personality and talent into a script without it being extensively re-written. Sony decided to hire Callaham for the undead-follow-up thanks to his work on Jackpot, which is a darkly comic-tale that is based on a story by Swedish crime-writer, Jo Nesbo. He was also brought on do a re-write on Marvel’s Ant-Man after Edgar Wright’s shocking departure earlier this summer. 

Sony still hasn't officially confirmed whether Fleischer will return to direct theZombieland sequel, but as he was the man who oversaw the original’s relative success (making $102 million on a $23.6 million budget), it’s a pretty safe bet that they’ll ask him to step behind the camera again. Plus, Fleischer would also probably jump at the opportunity to return to a franchise that he knows intimately. Fleischermade his feature-film debut with Zombieland, after forging a very impressive career as a music video and commercials director, but his follow-up movies failed to blossom in the way that his first outing did. Despite possessing the always stellar comedic talent of Aziz Ansari, while also re-teaming Fleischer with his Zombielandstar, Jesse Eisenberg, 30 Minutes Or Less flopped. After that, Gangster Squadfailed to live up to the potential of its cast or story, and Fleischer was even criticized by critics for being out of his element. Ouch. 

While it looks like there is a good chance Fleischer will come back, each of the four leading cast-members have seen their career’s soar since the film was released, and it would be rather amazing if they could convince just one of them to come-back - let alone the entire quartet. Eisenberg is currently filming his scenes as Lex Luthor for Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice, Woody Harrelson has re-defined his career thanks to his turn in True Detective, not to mention The Hunger Games, Emma Stone is one of Hollywood’s most in-demand actresses thanks to her exploits as Gwen Stacey in Marc Webb’s The Amazing Spider-Man series, and Abigail Breslin has steadily built up her career thanks to a series of impressive bit-part roles in ensemble pieces like New Year’s Eve, Ender’s Game, and August: Osage County. In conclusion, it’s going to take a stellar script from Callaham to convince them to return, so he better get scribing. I’d start by working in another Bill Murray cameo if I were him. 

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Think it's too late for zombieland sequel. Best to leave it alone.

[Taynted_Fayth]

3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Think it's too late for zombieland sequel. Best to leave it alone.

I dont think its too late, there is a HUGE market for zombie movies, and IMO zombieland was the last good zombie movie since george A. Romero was doing them. way to many B-movies and just awful sounding projects like this upcoming pride and prejudice: zombies.  I guess it all depends on what the plot would be, most of these movies fail cuz they go flat after the plot is revealed and it just becomes oh no a zombie!  turns a corner, oh no! another zombie... runs away oh no! more zombies!  for the rest of the movie.  Zombieland was good cuz it was funny and able to maintain the humor throughout the movie

[Logan007]

1 hour ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

Maybe I'm just thinking of my own 11 year old, who would rather watch shows like the walking dead rather than the flash, and kids do make up a huge $ cow for superhero movies both at the box office and beyond with their merch. I just don't see how violence alone can net an R-rated sticker anymore unless were talking its some kind of a gore fest. Maybe I too am just too desensitized to violence to view it as a OMG type of thing anymore,  then again i like movies like house of 1000 corpses and the devils rejects.

And I don't blame most parents, there just too much to censor to keep your kids unaware of all things in the world. a big thing is the internet. Hell my kid has been interested in the news and even politics for a few years.  I remember him asking me what would possess a guy like Vince Li to eat parts of some kid on the bus a few years after the fact. Am i supposed to ban him from watching the news? I do watch movies i think he might like ahead of time and make a conscience decision whether its suitable or not,  such as deadpool,  which i know he wants to watch really bad, but i said not till hes older. That won't stop him from seeing it one way or another, but I just won't be that access to seeing it.  I got in a lot of **** for letting him watch Zombieland when he was 8 - my thought process is when i was 8 i was already up to no good and thought he could handle it.  He could... but his mom thought otherwise, even though she lets him watch the child's play movies (hypocritical ***** lol). I did however learn a lesson in there that sometimes i gotta stop trying to be the cool buddy dad and more of a better choice dad and since have really tried to limit the negative stuff he's exposed to when around me.  But i can't compete with TV, the internet, print media and society (friends/school) and thats just life.  He's got quite the opinion on the american election and the garbage Trump spews out, is watching batman kick the crap out of someone really the worst thing that kids can see lol

 

** Speaking of Zombieland just read this

I don't get how it could get an R rating either.  That was kind of my original point.  Having gory headshots and blood splattering everywhere doesn't really sync with Batman (maybe the Joker if he's even in the movie) so I don't really get how the movie can even reach an R rating.  And if they're just throwing in curse words, that's stupid too.  It's Zach Snyder, so you never know what kind of stupid things he's up to.

As for kids, we don't watch the news so my kids never see all of that.  And they don't really surf the internet much.  If they want to research something I let them use my iPad and they are usually supervised.  They do play some online games as well but that's it.  The only TV we watch is PVR'd so they don't see commercials either, and we're a superhero family (well we boys are) so they only see the things that I get for them.  I'm not into zombie's so we don't watch any of the zombie TV shows.  I don't find it hard at all to keep them away from junk, but that's just us.  They also have other activities, hobbies and homework to keep them occupied so surfing the net, watching TV or playing games are more of a perk for them.  And I know what you mean about wanting to let them watch certain movies, I have to hold myself back from letting my kids watch a lot of stuff that I wish I could share with them right now, but they're just not ready for this stuff yet.  A lot of parents are trying to let their kids grow up too fast rather then just letting kids be kids.

Anyway, that's beside the point.  My original comment was more of a "why would you make a Batman and Superman movie R rated"?  The reason I was talking about kids was because they're superheroes meant for kids/adults.  Deadpool the comic is meant to be R rated, it's more of an adult comic.  Same with Wolverine (although I'd say Wolverine could go either way depending on the story).  But Batman and Superman to me are more of a PG-13 type of thing.  Batman could go pretty dark, but not really necessary.  I just don't get why anyone would bother doing it for those specific heroes.  It makes no sense.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Logan007

[Logan007]

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

What does kids have to do with an R rating.  The point of an R rating is that kids wont watch it.  Ofcourse some will, but that's their parent's problem, not mine.  If the arguing is we shouldnt have any R rated (or worse) films because a kid might see it, we're into the realm of censorship and craziness.

See the last paragraph above.

[Taynted_Fayth]

DCs trying hard to compete with Marvel but failing.  Making BvS r-rated would be nothing more then trying to ride a bit of the success deadpool recently got. I dont think it's going to work, cuz your right everyone not named Batman in the DC universe, as far as heroes go are pretty much boyscouts.  I think theres a time and place though to make a darker side to the norm but it would probably be served best in independent films, not a build up into the Justice League.   

examples would be a darker Superman movie featuring his death vs doomsday,  the Hal Jordans green lantern turning into the evil Parallax, the dark knight...ect

[Logan007]

But even those events aren't that dark.  I dunno, maybe it's just me. 

[Taynted_Fayth]

you can easily make them dark, maybe not the Green lantern one, but im sure kids dont wanna watch a good guy turn to the dark side, and based off all the buzz going on about making everything R-rated in the foreseeable future, DC might need to ditch the PG just to compete.  I think if the Suicide Squad is successful, that could be a direction they should take instead of screwing with the rest.  DC doesnt have as many "anti-heroes" as the Marvel Universe

[Logan007]

See, now to me Suicide Squad would almost make sense getting an R rating, either in the theater or on Bluray.  That one makes sense.

[Taynted_Fayth]

its definitely a window of opportunity for them, as the characters in the squad are constantly changing.  I watched an interesting little documentary the other night called "Necessary Evil" and it was with a bunch of DC comic writers and film directors and focused on the dark side of the universe.  Ill admit I didnt really follow the suicide squad, so listening to them talk about what made it appealing, was these are bad guys basically strapped with a bomb vest or some kind of killing device that are forced by the government to do good, or boom your dead.  and the comics would always have a surprise death or twist to stories that would keep you wondering who would die next, who would be brought in to replace them...ect   an interesting concept all in all

[17to85]

If people are interested in the ratings of movies I highly recommend watching the documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" 

Really provides a good insight into how ****** up the system for rating movies is. 

[The Unknown Poster]

2 hours ago, Logan007 said:

See the last paragraph above.

Still dont get it.  If the option is for both a PG-13 and R rated film, what difference does it make?  Its not like they're talking about only releasing an R Rated version...

[The Unknown Poster]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

If people are interested in the ratings of movies I highly recommend watching the documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" 

Really provides a good insight into how ****** up the system for rating movies is. 

Definitely.  Violence is way more acceptable than sex.  I've seen some movies that have pretty light sex but might contain nudity and kids are banned.  I always wonder, do 14-17 year olds not know what a naked human looks like?