GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety. Let's just slow down. We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American. Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line. He won't play safety in the CFL. Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement. SPuDS 1
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 It's nice to be fighting about who fits where instead of what player we should pick off the scrap heap to fill a role. Fan Boy, M.O.A.B., TBURGESS and 3 others 6
Jpan85 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Ed Tait @WFPEdTait 3m3 minutes ago #Bombers GM Kyle Walters on new DB Garrett Waggoner (1): "His testing numbers are off the charts. They’re phenomenal.” #bn 1 retweet 1 favorite Ed Tait @WFPEdTait 42s43 seconds ago #Bombers Walters on Waggoner (2): "U put on film and he’s running around killing people. He's a unique talent/complete package for us.” #bn Ed Tait @WFPEdTait 31s32 seconds ago #Bombers @GarrettWaggoner was worked out by Danny McManus, trains with Nick Moore. "Super-excited to be a Bomber." #bn Blue-urns 1
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety. Let's just slow down. We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American. Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line. He won't play safety in the CFL. Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement. My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL BBlink 1
BBlink Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year.
GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety. Let's just slow down. We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American. Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line. He won't play safety in the CFL. Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement. My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL Fair enough. Why?
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year. I'd say that's pretty much a lock at this point. We have more than enough long haired dudes to fill our Canadian ratio on defense.
dmillerywg Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety. Let's just slow down. We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American. Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line. He won't play safety in the CFL. Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement. My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL Its hard to say how things will work out through Training Camp, it is possible to play a NAT as safety this year we have enough depth ( more than enough ) It boils down to what is best for the Team, Leggett is a very good safety so he would have to beat someone out at DB... Waggoner played Safety at Darthmouth so he could play it in the CFL... Here is an interesting article about Waggoner http://3downnation.com/2015/05/19/waggoner-set-to-become-3rd-generation-cfler-thanks-to-moms-twitter/
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 He trains with Nick Moore in the offseason. So he should be good to start at least 4 games this year... Blitzy and BBlink 2
BBlink Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 He trains with Nick Moore in the offseason. So he should be good to start at least 4 games this year... Garrett Waggoner's mini hamburgers.
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL Fair enough. Why? His size and testing numbers indicate that he will potentially make a hell of a weak-side linebacker in the CFL. I believe that he could also play safety but that teams value a Canadian linebacker more than they value a Canadian safety (supply-and-demand), so the Bombers will do everything they can to make him work at that spot. Furthermore Richie Hall has a history of always using an import at safety and we have a really good one. The Bombers are clearly committed to starting a Canadian corner as well and it seems unlikely to me that they would start two Canadians in the secondary. TBURGESS, Blue-urns, James and 1 other 4
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB.
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB. Sounds Butler-esque to me...
MTA Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety. Let's just slow down. We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American. Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line. He won't play safety in the CFL. Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement. My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL Just watched his tape, quick breakdown Negs Is very tall in his pedal and a touch slower in it. First step out of break is slow Limited tape vs top comp Pos Second step is amazing out of the break Once he gets going, he can fly Will hit u and hard. Like him more at the mac and will, footwork would have to get way better to play saftey Mike and Blue-urns 2
johnzo Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS?
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS? Leggett is a ball hawk too, great anticipation skills, hate to lose him in the secondary. Blue-urns 1
Goalie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Waggoner is a WIL LB for sure, size speed skill to play there. Leggett is one of the best safetys in the league, he will stay there for sure as he should. voodoochylde, IC Khari, Blue-urns and 1 other 4
BBlink Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner
M.O.A.B. Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year. I'd say that's pretty much a lock at this point. We have more than enough long haired dudes to fill our Canadian ratio on defense. I actually prefer 4-import receivers anyways.
bearpants Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS?Leggett is a ball hawk too, great anticipation skills, hate to lose him in the secondary. No reason got can't have Leggett on the field at the same time as a Canadian safety in certain packages... but all signs definitely point to our ratio being 3 o-line, 1 rec, and 3 on defense
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Walters said after the draft that they are going into training camp tentatively with eight Canadian starters on the depth chart. I don't see that changing. 3 OL, 2 WR, 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB.
Fatty Liver Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner That's what i was thinking, eventually it looks like they will not require a National to play the corner. Being a professional football player must be an insanely stressful job.
GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Walters said after the draft that they are going into training camp tentatively with eight Canadian starters on the depth chart. I don't see that changing. 3 OL, 2 WR, 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB. That could be. 8 NI starters would allow us a great deal of ratio flex. I certainly wouldn't mind that prospect. I do not think that a 2nd NI receiver will be utilized on a full time basis though. I suspect we will see a lot of offensive packages featuring 4 import receivers.
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