GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner That's what i was thinking, eventually it looks like they will not require a National to play the corner. I think that is a position you want to transition away from a NI if you have the luxury of doing so. It's a tough position to find good NIs at.
Brandon Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same.
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same. haha lol.
GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB. I actually know Rotor in real life through mutual business acquaintances. He is not blowing smoke. I'm not at liberty to discuss his personal life but it is very safe to assume that he knows Tillman very well.
GCn20 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same. Migs, is that you? IC Khari 1
Bomber_fanaddict Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB. I actually know Rotor in real life through mutual business acquaintances. He is not blowing smoke. I'm not at liberty to discuss his personal life but it is very safe to assume that he knows Tillman very well. Is he the father of the babysitter? What too soon? kelownabomberfan 1
Bigblue204 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same. please give us an example
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB. I actually know Rotor in real life through mutual business acquaintances. He is not blowing smoke. I'm not at liberty to discuss his personal life but it is very safe to assume that he knows Tillman very well. Is he the father of the babysitter? What too soon?
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 name="Bomber_fanaddict" post="120359" timestamp="1432151014"] Is he the father of the babysitter? What too soon? That fastball just hung right over the plate for you...and bam! Right out of the park...
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. Blue-urns and SPuDS 2
M.O.A.B. Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. The Lions were one of four teams to offer a first-round 2016 pick for Waggoner, but lost him to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, who reaped the benefit of a higher waiver claim order from missing the playoffs last year. http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/05/20/lions-not-playing-safe-to-replace-safety/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Blue-urns and SPuDS 2
Fatty Liver Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. So how do they decide the Bombers pick has the most value?
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. So how do they decide the Bombers pick has the most value? It's the draft order.
Bomber_fanaddict Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Another question then. If we offer a 1st and Ottawa offers a first I know Ottawa would have gotten him. However can we then add in another pick or is it a one pick deal?
Mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Another question then. If we offer a 1st and Ottawa offers a first I know Ottawa would have gotten him. However can we then add in another pick or is it a one pick deal? One pick deal, so you know Ottawa wasn't one of the teams that were in on him. Almost makes you wonder if Ottawa weighed the possibility of bidding for him and holding their own auction. Sounds like he was pretty sought after.
Brandon Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same. please give us an exampleRemember when the Riders signed Picard and Labatte when both in their prime? Are you suggesting that no team has signed 3 ni in a season before? Also for the draft picks remember how great Poblah turned out to be? I wouldn't be bragging about the guys we added just yet.
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. The Lions were one of four teams to offer a first-round 2016 pick for Waggoner, but lost him to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, who reaped the benefit of a higher waiver claim order from missing the playoffs last year. http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/05/20/lions-not-playing-safe-to-replace-safety/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed woohoo!! Our tremendous sucking paid off! In your face Buffalo Sabres! Blue-urns and Fan Boy 2
17to85 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB. I actually know Rotor in real life through mutual business acquaintances. He is not blowing smoke. I'm not at liberty to discuss his personal life but it is very safe to assume that he knows Tillman very well. Is he the father of the babysitter? What too soon? Damn it! I had to go out this afternoon, I was totally going to make that joke. Bomber_fanaddict 1
Bomber_fanaddict Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Dominic Picard Sam Hurl Jamaal Westerman Sukh Chungh Addison Richards Garrett Waggoner has a club added so much Canadian talent in one offseason in recent memory? An aging olineman, a mediocre lb, one legit ni talent and three draft picks? I'm sure nearly every year every team does the same.please give us an exampleRemember when the Riders signed Picard and Labatte when both in their prime?Are you suggesting that no team has signed 3 ni in a season before? Also for the draft picks remember how great Poblah turned out to be? I wouldn't be bragging about the guys we added just yet. I'd agree it's too soon to tell how the signings will pay off. But Walters has brought in more Canadians then any GM in recent history for the Bombers. To that I say well done Kyle! Of course he wouldn't have to bring in all these Canadians if the last two clowns had a hot clue on how to properly draft and retain Canadians.... Fan Boy, IC Khari and Mr Dee 3
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 That occurred this time around, when the Lions and at least three other clubs went hard after Garrett Waggoner, an American-born defensive back who was once on the Lions negotiation list before he was deemed to be a non-import. Here’s a well-done piece on Waggoner for background which surfaced this week. Sounds like Wally was hard, er going hard for Waggoner too.
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 His play drew the attention of the B.C. Lions, who put him on their negotiation list – a method by which CFL teams commonly lock down American players. He was getting ready to sign his first contract with the team last month when his mom received a message from TSN’s Duane Forde. “I remember I was sitting on the couch and my mom said, ‘Garrett this CFL analyst just Tweeted me and said to follow him and ‘DM’ him. What’s a DM and how do I follow him?’” Waggoner said. “That was funny.” Forde, who does colour commentary for CFL games and is the broadcaster’s resident draft expert, had been talking to a scout about Waggoner. “He mentioned how much he liked this kid and that he was Hal Waggoner’s grandson. I recognized the grandfather’s name just from being around the CFL,” Forde said. It also got Forde thinking: could Waggoner possibly qualify as a national player, something that would dramatically increase his value to teams around the league? Though Waggoner was born in the United States, he’s entitled to Canadian citizenship because his father Scott was born here, a practice commonly known as citizenship by first generation descent. In addition, the CFL changed its rules last year to consider any player with Canadian citizenship as a national. So Waggoner showed his mom how to direct message Forde. Then he called his agent, Fred Weinrauch. “I told him, ‘Duane Forde said I might be able to qualify for national status, does this mean anything?’” And he said, ‘Definitely, let’s look into it,’” Waggoner said. Sounds like Kyle owes Duane Forde a doughnut. Also - how pissed off is Wally right now? He had this kid in the bag and Forde totally screwed it up for him. James, Blue-urns, Fan Boy and 1 other 4
M.O.A.B. Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 According to Justin Dunk, no one selected Chapman. He went undrafted.
bearpants Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Two other teams offered first rounders for Waggoner. I feel okay now. The Lions were one of four teams to offer a first-round 2016 pick for Waggoner, but lost him to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, who reaped the benefit of a higher waiver claim order from missing the playoffs last year. http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/05/20/lions-not-playing-safe-to-replace-safety/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Now that the great and powerful Wally Buono has justified this selection, I am happy with it! Fan Boy 1
bearpants Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 Also if BC needs a safety so bad (according to that article they do)... why wouldn't they use a late round pick on Chapman... rather than try their luck at signing him as a free agent...
BBlink Posted May 20, 2015 Report Posted May 20, 2015 His play drew the attention of the B.C. Lions, who put him on their negotiation list – a method by which CFL teams commonly lock down American players. He was getting ready to sign his first contract with the team last month when his mom received a message from TSN’s Duane Forde. “I remember I was sitting on the couch and my mom said, ‘Garrett this CFL analyst just Tweeted me and said to follow him and ‘DM’ him. What’s a DM and how do I follow him?’” Waggoner said. “That was funny.” Forde, who does colour commentary for CFL games and is the broadcaster’s resident draft expert, had been talking to a scout about Waggoner. “He mentioned how much he liked this kid and that he was Hal Waggoner’s grandson. I recognized the grandfather’s name just from being around the CFL,” Forde said. It also got Forde thinking: could Waggoner possibly qualify as a national player, something that would dramatically increase his value to teams around the league? Though Waggoner was born in the United States, he’s entitled to Canadian citizenship because his father Scott was born here, a practice commonly known as citizenship by first generation descent. In addition, the CFL changed its rules last year to consider any player with Canadian citizenship as a national. So Waggoner showed his mom how to direct message Forde. Then he called his agent, Fred Weinrauch. “I told him, ‘Duane Forde said I might be able to qualify for national status, does this mean anything?’” And he said, ‘Definitely, let’s look into it,’” Waggoner said. Sounds like Kyle owes Duane Forde a doughnut. Also - how pissed off is Wally right now? He had this kid in the bag and Forde totally screwed it up for him. If he had signed a contract as an import would he have been able to change his designation? I doubt it. So I'm not sure it's a huge loss for the lions but a big gain for us in that respect
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