Preseason - Game One - WPG @ TOR

[yogi]

Game highlights are up on TSN, all 47 seconds of them. Good job TSN, may you burn in HELL!!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/vi...uts-27-1.304464

To be fair it's 1:17 with the 30s as that plays before...

[rebusrankin]

Hey man, what is TSN supposed to cut, dodgeball?

[Atomic]

I really liked Rodney Lamar at linebacker, I thought he was our best LB.

[M.O.A.B.]

So how's Chungh's and Goossen's play ? I see that no one mention them, is that good or bad?

[Mark F]

listening to the radio off and on, heard Rodney Lamar make two big plays, one a qb sack. 

[GCn20]

So how's Chungh's and Goossen's play ? I see that no one mention them, is that good or bad?

 

Both were very solid. Quite impressive really.

[BBlink]

While the offensive line wasn't going against Toronto's 1s, they did an admirable job I thought. At one point I think it was Tyler, Griffiths, Goossen, Everett and Lewis and it was still working.

[Mike]

So TB ... I'm curious if you're still going to stick to your opinion given that Carlos Anderson would've likely been one of the guys they wouldn't have brought if it was up to you. He was probably the 4th or 5th RB going into the game and now where does he rank? What about as a return specialist?

 

THAT is why you bring everyone and give them a shot.

[M.O.A.B.]

I think if I rank the RBs right now, it would be:

 

1. Anderson

2. Marshall

3. Cotton

4. Randle

5. Scott

 

I'm guessing the Bombers will keep 3 Import RBs.

[Mike]

I think if I rank the RBs right now, it would be:

 

1. Anderson

2. Marshall

3. Cotton

4. Randle

5. Scott

 

I'm guessing the Bombers will keep 3 Import RBs.

 

Impossible to rank Anderson that high ... he had ONE carry as a running back, we haven't seen anywhere near enough work. However, the return game is where he created value for himself. I don't think he's at the bottom anymore, he's put his name in the discussion. But now he at least deserves another opportunity against Hamilton, in my opinion.

[Atomic]

Anderson had two carries, 20 yards and 2 yards.

 

Cotton: 3 yards, -2 yards, -1 yard.

Marshall:  2 yards, 1 yard, -3 yards, 16 yards, 1 yard TD.

Scott:  1 yard, 3 yards (WPG accepted TOR penalty, no stat for Scott), 3 yards, -4 yards, -2 yards.

Randle:  -4 yards, 0 yards.

[TBURGESS]

First off let me say I was wrong.  I didn't think there was a snowball's hope in hell we'd win a game with that roster, but we did.  I know I'm the only poster around here who thought a win was important and I very happy to see we got one.

 

Yes Mike... I would have left Anderson at home and I would have missed a great return that probably won the game for us.  No Mike... I still don't think you give everyone a shot just because one player managed a great play.  I'd still have prefered to see more reps from 3 RB's and 1 FB to get Westerman, Randel and Moore into the game for a quarter.

 

My take on the game:

 

QB's

 

Willy - No stream, so I can't comment

Brohm - Looked like he knew where he wanted to go, but the passess were inaccurate.

Marve - Mixed bag.  Some good throws, yes even from the pocket, some bad throws, yes even from the scramble.  Used his legs to get a first down and a TD and threw a nice TD pass (From the pocket).  I'd move him to #2 next week to see what he can do against better competition. 

Portis - Runs well, but a very long way from being a good QB

 

RB's

 

Cotton - Worst of the bunch last night

Rest didn't impress me, except for Anderson's punt return.

 

O Line

 

Gave up some serious pressures and didn't block that well for the run, but way better than I thought they'd be.  It wasn't until Griffiths and Everett were in that they looked really bad.

 

Receivers

 

Liked what I saw from Tuinei and Clemons.  Gordon and Adams after the TC hype were a let downs.

 

D line

 

Not enough pressure most of the time.  No one stood out.

 

LB's

 

Allen looked good he made a great stop at the 1, sniffed out a screen play perfectly and a sack.  Still, 4th quarter means playing against the other teams fringe players.

Burnett made a couple of plays too.

 

DB's

 

Another unit that did better than I expected.  Hall played himself off of the team IMHO.  41 - Jones would have too except for his passport.  4 PI's?  Good or bad under the new rules?  

[sweep the leg]

It sounded like Rodney Lamar had himself a good game. As a mlb, he's probably fighting for a pr spot. I can't see us DI'ing a lb with so many good Canadians there, and I don't think he'll get the starting job over Hurl.

 

I think we can probably pencil in Marshall as one of our two rbs on the 44. Anderson vs. Cotton will be interesting to watch for the rest of camp and the next preseason game. Cotton's ball security issues need to be fixed. Randle sounded terrible in the return game and did nothing running the ball. Couple that with being hurt for part of camp and he's probably behind those two guys now.

 

Marve doesn't look pretty out there, but he still seems to be able to put points on the board. Brohm got us in scoring position three times, but needs to get it in the endzone. Based on last night I wouldn't change the qb depth chart.

 

Pleasantly surprised last night wasn't a series of crushing sacks on our qbs. Sounded like our backups on the OL acquitted themselves pretty well.

[Bomber_fanaddict]

Here I was told all off season that Randle would make Cotton look slow.  I wasn't really impressed with any RB except for maybe Marshall.  Could be because of bad blocking though.  Still too early to tell but I see them keeping, Cotton, Marshall and Anderson (he can play back up RB and punt return until Troy gets back).  Next week will be a big test for the RBs.

[BBlink]

I think Randle is playing hurt. He looked very slow out there.

[coachrock]

I had higher hopes for the RBs, very disappointed in all of them in last nights game.  I dont think Anderson makes the team because of one punt return but it could be a tiebreaker if its close.  IMO no one did enough to unseat Cotton, even with his less than stellar performance last night, so he starts week one.

[Mike]

I had higher hopes for the RBs, very disappointed in all of them in last nights game.  I dont think Anderson makes the team because of one punt return but it could be a tiebreaker if its close.  IMO no one did enough to unseat Cotton, even with his less than stellar performance last night, so he starts week one.

 

I don't think anyone is going to get much out of the stream for RB performance. It'll all be about how they grade out on film with following their blocks, pass protection, who followed their assignments to a tee. One or two carries a guy isn't going to teach them much at all, especially behind a revolving door OL.

[mbrg]

With Stoudamire's injury, I suspect Anderson's punt return will get more weight than just as a tie-breaker.  Was reading in some article this morning, he has a 4.21 40?  That's insane.  Must be a typo in there.  Even 4.31 is suck the air out of your nostrils speed.

[Fatty Liver]

 

I had higher hopes for the RBs, very disappointed in all of them in last nights game.  I dont think Anderson makes the team because of one punt return but it could be a tiebreaker if its close.  IMO no one did enough to unseat Cotton, even with his less than stellar performance last night, so he starts week one.

 

I don't think anyone is going to get much out of the stream for RB performance. It'll all be about how they grade out on film with following their blocks, pass protection, who followed their assignments to a tee. One or two carries a guy isn't going to teach them much at all, especially behind a revolving door OL.

 

 

Plus the field surface was poor, little depth above the asphalt so players who tried to make quick cuts ended up on their ass.

[TBURGESS]

 

I had higher hopes for the RBs, very disappointed in all of them in last nights game.  I dont think Anderson makes the team because of one punt return but it could be a tiebreaker if its close.  IMO no one did enough to unseat Cotton, even with his less than stellar performance last night, so he starts week one.

 

I don't think anyone is going to get much out of the stream for RB performance. It'll all be about how they grade out on film with following their blocks, pass protection, who followed their assignments to a tee. One or two carries a guy isn't going to teach them much at all, especially behind a revolving door OL.

 

Sounds like you're thinking there were too many RB's on the depth chart to be able to effectively rate their performance. 

[dmillerywg]

With Stoudamire's injury, I suspect Anderson's punt return will get more weight than just as a tie-breaker.  Was reading in some article this morning, he has a 4.21 40?  That's insane.  Must be a typo in there.  Even 4.31 is suck the air out of your nostrils speed.

Carlos Anderson link shows his Pro Day as 4.38 that is very fast.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=64468&draftyear=2013&genpos=RB

[mbrg]

 

 

I had higher hopes for the RBs, very disappointed in all of them in last nights game.  I dont think Anderson makes the team because of one punt return but it could be a tiebreaker if its close.  IMO no one did enough to unseat Cotton, even with his less than stellar performance last night, so he starts week one.

 

I don't think anyone is going to get much out of the stream for RB performance. It'll all be about how they grade out on film with following their blocks, pass protection, who followed their assignments to a tee. One or two carries a guy isn't going to teach them much at all, especially behind a revolving door OL.

 

Sounds like you're thinking there were too many RB's on the depth chart to be able to effectively rate their performance. 

 

 

I'm sure to you it would.

 

To me, it sounds like he's saying they will be evaluated on all aspects of their performance and duties, not just the rush attempts.  I could see how that was missed though.  Using all those fancy terms like blocks, pass protection, assignments.  Enough with the crazy lingo Roger Staubach.

[M.O.A.B.]

I think Randle is playing hurt. He looked very slow out there.

 

Not good on him.

[M.O.A.B.]

 

I think if I rank the RBs right now, it would be:

 

1. Anderson

2. Marshall

3. Cotton

4. Randle

5. Scott

 

I'm guessing the Bombers will keep 3 Import RBs.

 

Impossible to rank Anderson that high ... he had ONE carry as a running back, we haven't seen anywhere near enough work. However, the return game is where he created value for himself. I don't think he's at the bottom anymore, he's put his name in the discussion. But now he at least deserves another opportunity against Hamilton, in my opinion.

 

 

It's also possible that Marshall is now the #1 RB and the #2 is up for grabs between Anderson and Cotton.

[Tehedra]

First off let me say I was wrong.  I didn't think there was a snowball's hope in hell we'd win a game with that roster, but we did.  I know I'm the only poster around here who thought a win was important and I very happy to see we got one.

 

Yes Mike... I would have left Anderson at home and I would have missed a great return that probably won the game for us.  No Mike... I still don't think you give everyone a shot just because one player managed a great play.  I'd still have prefered to see more reps from 3 RB's and 1 FB to get Westerman, Randel and Moore into the game for a quarter.

 

My take on the game:

 

QB's

 

Willy - No stream, so I can't comment

Brohm - Looked like he knew where he wanted to go, but the passess were inaccurate.

Marve - Mixed bag.  Some good throws, yes even from the pocket, some bad throws, yes even from the scramble.  Used his legs to get a first down and a TD and threw a nice TD pass (From the pocket).  I'd move him to #2 next week to see what he can do against better competition. 

Portis - Runs well, but a very long way from being a good QB

 

RB's

 

Cotton - Worst of the bunch last night

Rest didn't impress me, except for Anderson's punt return.

 

O Line

 

Gave up some serious pressures and didn't block that well for the run, but way better than I thought they'd be.  It wasn't until Griffiths and Everett were in that they looked really bad.

 

Receivers

 

Liked what I saw from Tuinei and Clemons.  Gordon and Adams after the TC hype were a let downs.

 

D line

 

Not enough pressure most of the time.  No one stood out.

 

LB's

 

Allen looked good he made a great stop at the 1, sniffed out a screen play perfectly and a sack.  Still, 4th quarter means playing against the other teams fringe players.

Burnett made a couple of plays too.

 

DB's

 

Another unit that did better than I expected.  Hall played himself off of the team IMHO.  41 - Jones would have too except for his passport.  4 PI's?  Good or bad under the new rules?  

 

Excellent post TBURGESS, thanks for the insight and I agree with many of your assessments.