Noeller Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Oilers were in talks for Rask yesterday so Talbot is a bit of a letdown but they needed someone. Desperately.
iHeart Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I wish we could get Tukka Rask, but we have two perfectly good goalies we can count on
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Round 4, Jets draft another centre (Czech Republic) Michael Spacek, 5'11" 187 center Spacek is a smart playmaker who can take full advantage of others’ skills and knows how to get the puck to those players who can finish. He makes plays on the move and through sticks and skates. He's not deterred in any way and while he doesn’t catch your eye with physical flash, he captures your attention with his mental effort and purpose. http://www.tsn.ca/michael-spacek-right-wing-1.296783 Jets have no Round 5 pick, so next pick will be Round 6.
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Looks like jets having a good draft
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Round 6 Jets draft another centre. Mason Appleton (USA again) 6'2" 194 lbs. Can't find any scouting report on him but last season with the Tri-City Storm, in 54 games he had 12 goals, 28 Assists (40 points) and 84 penalty minutes. He also popped up in a site called hockeyfights.com, so I think he might be a bit of a goon.
Floyd Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Pumped about the Harkins pick, another guy that was available much later than he should have; Spacek rated top five Europe Pipeline is looking really good; almost have a full team of realistic prospects Ehlers-Scheifele-Roslovic Connor-Lowry-Petan Lemieux-Copp-Armia Harkins Chiarot-Trouba Morrissey-Kostalek Glover Helleybuck-Comrie
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Round 7, finally pick a D. Sami Niku, Finland, 6'0" 176 lbs.
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 So the draft looks like this: Round 1 (17th) - LW - Kyle Connor (USA) Round 1 (25th) - C - Jack Roslovic (USA) Round 2 (47th) - C - Jansen Harkins (USA) Round 3 (78th) - LW - Erik Foley (USA) Round 4 (108) - RW - Michael Spacek (CZECH) Round 6 (168) - C - Mason Appleton (USA) Round 7 (198) - D - Sami Niku (FIN) Round 7 (203) - C - Matteo Gennaro (CAN) I wonder if the Jets find the USA to be under scouted. Lots of scouts always looking at the Canadian juniors leagues. It came out this week that the Jets employ twice the number of scouts than Toronto does (surprising with the budget Toronto could have). Maybe they find more value in the USA systems that fall further in the draft than their talent would dictate. Edited: Apparently we had one more late pick in the 7th round, added it in. So we did draft a Canadian after all!
gbill2004 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 So the draft looks like this: Round 1 (17th) - LW Kyle Connor (USA) Round 1 (25th) - C - Jack Roslovic (USA) Round 2 (47th) - C - Jansen Harkins (USA) Round 3 (78th) - LW - Erik Foley (USA) Round 4 (108) - RW - Michael Spacek (CZECH) Round 6 (168) - C - Mason Appleton (USA) Round 7 (198) - D - Sami Niku (FIN) Not one Canadian drafted, but lots of USA. I wonder if the Jets find the USA to be under scouted. Lots of scouts always looking at the Canadian juniors leagues. It came out this week that the Jets employ twice the number of scouts than Toronto does (surprising with the budget Toronto could have). Maybe they find more value in the USA systems that fall further in the draft than their talent would dictate. I think your analysis here is bang on.
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Jets clearly feel comfortable with the current D and D prospects. Taking C's is good. Even for future trade value
kelownabomberfan Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Harkins was born in the US but grew up in Canada and all of his hockey development has been in Canada. He played in Vancouver growing up and his junior team was Prince George. He even played for Canada at the U-18 Championship in April. I wouldn't lump him in with the other US players that the Jets drafted, who are true US born and raised players. Rich 1
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 I think after the first couple rounds you just pick best player available as they are longer shots to even play in the NHL. Just for comparison: 2011 - 3 Forwards, 3 Defensemen, 1 Goalie 2012 - 3 Forwards, 1 Defensemen, 2 Goalies 2013 - 3 Forwards, 5 Defensemen, 1 Goalie 2014 - 5 Forwards, 2 Defensemen, 0 Goalies 2015 - 7 Forwards, 1 Defensemen, 0 Galies
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 This is an interesting website that shows all of the Jets picks and their NHL stats. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00010675.html Since 2011, we've only had 4 players with an NHL game under their belt and one of those is Andrew Copp with the one game he got at the end of last season. I know it takes 3 - 4 years for a lot of these guys to make the NHL, and you see a lot of names there that should be in the NHL over the next couple of years, just an interesting look at how a team drafts and their NHL success. Other than Sheifele and Lowry, I don't think anyone else from the 2011 draft is even still in our system.
kelownabomberfan Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Who did we get that second 7th round pick from? I never saw it on the board earlier.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Round 7 (203) - C - Matteo Gennaro (CAN) I wonder if the Jets find the USA to be under scouted. Lots of scouts always looking at the Canadian juniors leagues. It came out this week that the Jets employ twice the number of scouts than Toronto does (surprising with the budget Toronto could have). Maybe they find more value in the USA systems that fall further in the draft than their talent would dictate. Edited: Apparently we had one more late pick in the 7th round, added it in. So we did draft a Canadian after all! With a non-Canadian name? Does that count?
Rich Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Who did we get that second 7th round pick from? I never saw it on the board earlier. It was there before. The Washington Capitals' seventh-round pick will go to the Winnipeg Jets as the result of a trade on June 28, 2014 that sent Eddie Pasquale and a sixth-round pick in 2014 to Washington in exchange for a sixth-round pick in 2014, Nashville's seventh-round pick in 2014 and this pick.[51] kelownabomberfan 1
Ducky Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Kudos to Chevy....excellent top 3 picks this year and stocking the cupboard wisely.
Goalie Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Lots of experts saying the Jets had the best draft top to bottom. Connor is a steal. Roslovic is very good. Harkins is a steal. Spacek was the 5th ranked euro
Ducky Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 The consensus in Sunrise is that the Jets had the best draft, top to bottom, of any team. The Jets had Kyle Connor fall into their laps at No. 17, and Jack Roslovic was a strong pick at No. 25. Erik Foley, at No. 78, could be one of those latter round picks we marvel at some years from now. Seven forwards, and four straight Americans to start for GM Kevin Cheveldayoff. yahoo sports
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 Even if EDM only drafted one player THEY had the best draft. Or maybe BUF did. We shall see.
Goalie Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 I don't think Edmonton had a very good draft at all, yeah they got McDavid but he's just one player, one player won't make the difference. Talbot behind that D? I'm not sure he will be as good as they think he will be, 16 and 33 for Reinhart is a massive overpayment for sure... Outside of McDavid, Edmonton didn't really do much. It's not about taking one player cuz one player never makes the difference, it's a team sport, it's not baseball where it's basically pitcher vs batter, it's a team game, McDavid might be good but he can't win games by himself, might look good playing against 18 year olds but whats gonna happen when he gets nailed hard and believe me, he will be. I would put Edmonton near the bottom, they were gifted McDavid, he was the consesus number 1, you can't screw that pick up but if any team can, it's the oilers but regardless, taking a guy who is expected to go first? That's not having the best draft.. that's just taking the best player. Buffalo? Yeah they had a good day tho... giving up 21 for Lehner was a steep price tho but... Getting Eichel and O'reilly is definitely having a good day.. But really they only drafted Eichel, again a guy who you can't screw up on, he's consesus number 2.. Put it this way, if Wpg picked first, they'd have taken Mcdavid, If any team picked first it would be mcdavid, you can't screw it up, 2nd? those teams (name them all really) would have taken eichel.. That's not having a good draft, that's just picking the 2 best players or the 2 guys who they say are the best. IC Khari 1
Floyd Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 McDavid, Talbot, Reinhart, Jones, Gryba is a good draft, even Bear Edmonton needed defensive minded D and a goalie... they got that, McDavid is essentially a 'bonus' By 2016-17, maybe their D looks like Nurse-Schultz Klefborn-Reinhart Gryba-Musil Or maybe we trade Buff for Nurse... Noeller 1
Ducky Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 McDavid, Talbot, Reinhart, Jones, Gryba is a good draft, even Bear Edmonton needed defensive minded D and a goalie... they got that, McDavid is essentially a 'bonus' By 2016-17, maybe their D looks like Nurse-Schultz Klefborn-Reinhart Gryba-Musil Or maybe we trade Buff for Hall... FYP
Atomic Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 This is an interesting website that shows all of the Jets picks and their NHL stats. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00010675.html Since 2011, we've only had 4 players with an NHL game under their belt and one of those is Andrew Copp with the one game he got at the end of last season. I know it takes 3 - 4 years for a lot of these guys to make the NHL, and you see a lot of names there that should be in the NHL over the next couple of years, just an interesting look at how a team drafts and their NHL success. Other than Sheifele and Lowry, I don't think anyone else from the 2011 draft is even still in our system. Austen Brassard and Aaron Harstad are both still in the system as far as I know, they finished the season with the IceCaps. Brennan Serville is still playing in the NCAA. Jason Kasdorf went to Buffalo in the Kane trade. We don't own the rights to Yuen anymore. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 Gotta also keep in mind about the 2011 draft, that was the year the team was moved here in like 2 weeks and then the draft was like a week or so later. Not much time there really, kind of a fly by your seat of the pants draft... Jets have drafted very well and honestly, i bet if they won the cup and picked 30th, they would still grab a gem of a player.
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