BigBlue Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 MOS was one of the greatest Canadian LB's of recent times. Do you think he is trying to recreate a clone of himself ? I am very disappointed that our former LB specialist has such poor LB talent surrounding him ... what is wrong with his perceptual skills / mindset, if anything?
Jpan85 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 I don't think he is starting a player just to prove a point. O'Shea as a player and coach wants nothing more than to win. As a player he did everything in his power within the rules and to the fringes to win. People who think they are playing players to prove points I don't get.
gbill2004 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 I don't think he is starting a player just to prove a point. O'Shea as a player and coach wants nothing more than to win. As a player he did everything in his power within the rules and to the fringes to win. People who think they are playing players to prove points I don't get.Why did Kuale and Romby play so much last season? I do think Oshea can be stubborn, overly loyal and has his pet projects.
LeBird Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 He must be thinking Hurl is his best option right now or that Hurl can be trained to become a good MLB.
LeBird Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 I don't think he is starting a player just to prove a point. O'Shea as a player and coach wants nothing more than to win. As a player he did everything in his power within the rules and to the fringes to win. People who think they are playing players to prove points I don't get.Why did Kuale and Romby play so much last season? I do think Oshea can be stubborn, overly loyal and has his pet projects. I would like to think he had no other choices. It is extremely hard to believe he would let his stubborness get in the way of winning.
gbill2004 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 I don't think he is starting a player just to prove a point. O'Shea as a player and coach wants nothing more than to win. As a player he did everything in his power within the rules and to the fringes to win. People who think they are playing players to prove points I don't get.Why did Kuale and Romby play so much last season? I do think Oshea can be stubborn, overly loyal and has his pet projects. I would like to think he had no other choices. It is extremely hard to believe he would let his stubborness get in the way of winning.I think Oshea feels that, long term, his loyalty to his players will help with winning.
bluto Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 M'OS was the greatest Canadian LB of recent times. Maybe of all time. Do you think he is trying to recreate a clone of himself ? I am very disappointed that our former LB specialist has such poor LB talent surrounding him ... what is wrong with his perceptual skills / mindset, if anything? FTFY SPuDS, IC Khari and Piggy 1 3
Logan007 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 M'OS was the greatest Canadian LB of recent times. Maybe of all time. Do you think he is trying to recreate a clone of himself ? I am very disappointed that our former LB specialist has such poor LB talent surrounding him ... what is wrong with his perceptual skills / mindset, if anything? FTFY OMG HE'S ALIVE!
Armchair GM Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 Your MLB and your DT's are the key positions in stopping the run. Sask did a good job of getting their OL's to the 2nd level, and our LB's did a poor job of avoiding them. I'm more concerned about our tackles this morning, than I am our LB's. Admittedly they were not great, but I think a lot of it had to do with the position that the DL put them in by allowing several blockers to the 2nd level. Really hard in my eyes to evaluate the LB corps after that game, except for Randle, who when he wasn't out of position, he was getting overpowered at SAM. Get that guy back at halfback ASAP. Blue-urns, Mark F, HardCoreBlue and 2 others 5
BigBlue Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Posted June 29, 2015 Your MLB and your DT's are the key positions in stopping the run. Sask did a good job of getting their OL's to the 2nd level, and our LB's did a poor job of avoiding them. I'm more concerned about our tackles this morning, than I am our LB's. Admittedly they were not great, but I think a lot of it had to do with the position that the DL put them in by allowing several blockers to the 2nd level. Really hard in my eyes to evaluate the LB corps after that game, except for Randle, who when he wasn't out of position, he was getting overpowered at SAM. Get that guy back at halfback ASAP. "Get that guy back at halfback ASAP. " or even safety till Leggett gets back
bearpants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Your MLB and your DT's are the key positions in stopping the run. Sask did a good job of getting their OL's to the 2nd level, and our LB's did a poor job of avoiding them. I'm more concerned about our tackles this morning, than I am our LB's. Admittedly they were not great, but I think a lot of it had to do with the position that the DL put them in by allowing several blockers to the 2nd level. Really hard in my eyes to evaluate the LB corps after that game, except for Randle, who when he wasn't out of position, he was getting overpowered at SAM. Get that guy back at halfback ASAP. You mean corner?... but yes I agree, I think he may stay there til one of the new guys is ready... I think Burnett will be a good candidate
BigBlue Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Posted June 30, 2015 Your MLB and your DT's are the key positions in stopping the run. Sask did a good job of getting their OL's to the 2nd level, and our LB's did a poor job of avoiding them. I'm more concerned about our tackles this morning, than I am our LB's. Admittedly they were not great, but I think a lot of it had to do with the position that the DL put them in by allowing several blockers to the 2nd level. Really hard in my eyes to evaluate the LB corps after that game, except for Randle, who when he wasn't out of position, he was getting overpowered at SAM. Get that guy back at halfback ASAP. You mean corner?... but yes I agree, I think he may stay there til one of the new guys is ready... I think Burnett will be a good candidate No I meant safety ... we need someone with half a brain back there ... last game was awful and I can't think of who else would be an upgrase ,,,, Lin J Shell?
do or die Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Trying to clone the #2 CFL tackler of all time.....make take a wee bit of time, alright.
Fatty Liver Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Re-watched the game and kept my eye on Hurl, just doesn't seem to have much of a nose for the ball. Prefer to see Bass at MLB and Hurl and Newman rotating at OLB. Randle looked out of place and over-powered at times. Can't see why they got rid of Unamba honestly as he brought a physical presence to the position.
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 I don't believe we should overrate Bass and toss a guy like Randle under the bus based on what we've seen. Randle is playing a coverage position. Other than one cover zero blitz where our safety and MLB did not do anything to disrupt Durant, Randle had a clean game. The Riders run game primarily attacked the weak-side of our defense with stretch plays, and Bass didn't really stand up to it. The DL also had a lot of trouble holding their gaps which shift on those stretch plays. Once the Riders started trying to run between the tackles, the run game fizzled out. Blue-urns and Bigblue204 2
Fatty Liver Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 O'Shea also likes Briggs so he might get a crack at it. Tracker 1
blitzmore Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Hurl reminds me of Cauchy Muamba. Not even close..what a terrible comparison
do or die Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Generally, when both the S and MLB do nothing....it does not go that well, on D...
Fatty Liver Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Hurl reminds me of Cauchy Muamba. Not even close..what a terrible comparison I can sort of see the connection, Cauchy also had a brother that played LB and wore number 10........wait a minute....
Blueandgold Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Hurl reminds me of Cauchy Muamba. Not even close..what a terrible comparison Terrible hyped up Canadian players that didn't cut it as starters on their former teams and we thought we could change that? It's a very apt comparison actually.
BigBlue Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Posted July 1, 2015 Hurl reminds me of Cauchy Muamba. Not even close..what a terrible comparison I think the comparison predictive .... MOS might be cross eyed over Hurl .... Thursdasy will be revealing for Hurl's skill level
Mr Dee Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think Hurl was unproductive, I just think he didn't stand out. In the defence we played, everybody has to do their job, be it to fill a gap, or avoid a block or follow the flow. Overall, we did that. When we didn't...a couple of long runs resulted. I think our weakest position came at safety and Moe being back at safety should correct some of what went wrong. More attention to what the guys were actually supposed to do will result in better contain. And besides, Hamilton doesn't use the run very much. It's that sharp passing game that I'm a little worried about.
BigBlue Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think Hurl was unproductive, I just think he didn't stand out. In the defence we played, everybody has to do their job, be it to fill a gap, or avoid a block or follow the flow. Overall, we did that. When we didn't...a couple of long runs resulted. I think our weakest position came at safety and Moe being back at safety should correct some of what went wrong. More attention to what the guys were actually supposed to do will result in better contain. And besides, Hamilton doesn't use the run very much. It's that sharp passing game that I'm a little worried about. To me Hurl looked lost .... continously in the wrong place
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think Hurl was unproductive, I just think he didn't stand out. In the defence we played, everybody has to do their job, be it to fill a gap, or avoid a block or follow the flow. Overall, we did that. When we didn't...a couple of long runs resulted. I think our weakest position came at safety and Moe being back at safety should correct some of what went wrong. More attention to what the guys were actually supposed to do will result in better contain. And besides, Hamilton doesn't use the run very much. It's that sharp passing game that I'm a little worried about. To me Hurl looked lost .... continously in the wrong place That's how Bass looked to me, continuously letting the ball get past his outside shoulder on the stretch plays to the weak-side for Allen and Messam. They weren't running at Hurl, and when they did the runs went nowhere. They really attacked the weak-side, Anderson, Westerman, Bass for the most part. SPuDS 1
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