Election 2015

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

 

I think you need to reexamine things, if you see that as a liberal tactic rather than a political tactic that the Conservatives are just as guilty of.

I just can't get over the image of Putin and Trudeau in the same room together. Putin just pointing and laughing and realizing that the entire Canadian north is now his for the plucking.

This is why Trudeau is a bad choice. No way can he stand up to actual leaders. He'd make us a joke. I'd take putin over him in a heartbeat. Putin is strong and actually defends his country's culture and traditions.

 

Why couldn't he? Because attack ads told you so?

 

Because he cant even stand up to those Canadian reporters that question him on his nonsense.  He fumbles and stumbles and tries to remember what his bosses told him to say.  The guy has no real world experience.  Maybe he's a World Leader Prodigy.  But nothing we have seen of him has indicated that to be remotely true.

 

I know I know..."we need change from the usual politicians".  When you need an auto mechanic you dont go down to rainbow stage and hire a vapid "actor" with zero experience working on cars. 

[sweep the leg]

 

 

Actually, just wait til the Liberals win and the Cons force another election and the Liberals and NDP whine incessantly about how the Cons hate democracy. But if the Cons win a minority and the Liberals and NDP force another election it will be "the will of the people". lol

The poor Conservatives just can't catch a break. People are being so mean to them.

Pointing out double standards isn't crying.

 

Preparing to be outraged over something that hasn't happened yet is.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

 

I've enjoyed Harper's campaign strictly referring to Trudeau as "Justin" to try and have people draw the comparison to Bieber. It's cute...and it certainly worked on the parroting rabble...

I see nothing wrong with it. Justin has made himself look bad on many occasions. New leader. ....same out of touch liberals

He's awful. It surprises me that his most prominent job is as an low level actor because I find his speaking style very unnatural and disingenuous. Someone should tell him just to 'act' like a respected political leader and see if he does a better job. he never seems to have answers for questions he isnt prepared for and doesnt seem to understand the issues when pressed. Complete empty suit and puppet for his masters.

At least harper is the master. We know his plan.....with princess Justine you really don't know what you're getting.

 

Well lets not forget how scary Harper is and his hidden agenda.  I guess he's lazy because ten years later and he still hasnt unleashed this hidden agenda to destroy Canada. 

 

Generally speaking I dont buy into too much of "X is going to be the downfall of the nation" because no party is going to move Canada all the way right or all the way left.  It just wouldnt happen.  So I dont subscribe to any scary Justin stuff.  I just think being Prime Minister should require some experience and not be an on-the-job training gig.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

 

Actually, just wait til the Liberals win and the Cons force another election and the Liberals and NDP whine incessantly about how the Cons hate democracy. But if the Cons win a minority and the Liberals and NDP force another election it will be "the will of the people". lol

The poor Conservatives just can't catch a break. People are being so mean to them.

Pointing out double standards isn't crying.

 

Preparing to be outraged over something that hasn't happened yet is.

 

The "lol" at the end would indicate a lot more amusement than outrage.  But spin it any way that works for your view.

[kelownabomberfan]

 

 

Actually, just wait til the Liberals win and the Cons force another election and the Liberals and NDP whine incessantly about how the Cons hate democracy.  But if the Cons win a minority and the Liberals and NDP force another election it will be "the will of the people".  lol

 

 

One thing I notice about the NDP, and it's that hypocrisy knows no bounds.  On other election boards the NDP lovers were completely silent about one of their favorite topics, proportional representation, because of course, the NDP were ahead in the polls.  Now they are all back on it again.  When they are winning, they don't want it, but when they are losing they do want it.  And that's why the NDP loses constantly, they have no moral compass.

[kelownabomberfan]

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have.  I just don't get why you and your gang of holier-than-thous pick on the few here who aren't anti-Harper parrots out of some misguided sense of fairness (or partisanship), yet stay silent when people blatantly lie.  And then try and pretend that it "only happened once".  As I said, I really hate how politics brings out the worst in people.  Religion is pretty much tied with politics in that sense.  Want to bring a dinner party to a standstill?  Mention either religion or politics and boom, it's destroyed.  My niece summed up for me the NDP stance this weekend when she told the whole family how dumb we were because we were voting Liberal or Conservative, instead of the "obvious" choice which was the NDP, because all the other parties worried about was "money".  This from someone who is 100% dependent on her parents to pay her tuition, her books, her dorm, her clothes, her food, everything.  Just delusional.  Of course you don't have to "worry about money", that's mom and dad's problem.  When you don't have to worry about money, and have nothing to lose, the NDP is definitely the obvious choice.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have.  I just don't get why you and your gang of holier-than-thous pick on the few here who aren't anti-Harper parrots out of some misguided sense of fairness (or partisanship), yet stay silent when people blatantly lie.  And then try and pretend that it "only happened once".  As I said, I really hate how politics brings out the worst in people.  Religion is pretty much tied with politics in that sense.  Want to bring a dinner party to a standstill?  Mention either religion or politics and boom, it's destroyed.  My niece summed up for me the NDP stance this weekend when she told the whole family how dumb we were because we were voting Liberal or Conservative, instead of the "obvious" choice which was the NDP, because all the other parties worried about was "money".  This from someone who is 100% dependent on her parents to pay her tuition, her books, her dorm, her clothes, her food, everything.  Just delusional.  Of course you don't have to "worry about money", that's mom and dad's problem.  When you don't have to worry about money, and have nothing to lose, the NDP is definitely the obvious choice.

 

If your niece is dependent upon her parents to pay for everything, its no wonder she believes the NDP are the rightful party.  She wants to be taken care of.  One day, when she has a career and assets and money of her own, chances are she will begin to feel like the money she makes should be hers to keep, people who want to be taken care of from cradle to grave are wrong and the government should mind its own business. 

[kelownabomberfan]

 

 

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have.  I just don't get why you and your gang of holier-than-thous pick on the few here who aren't anti-Harper parrots out of some misguided sense of fairness (or partisanship), yet stay silent when people blatantly lie.  And then try and pretend that it "only happened once".  As I said, I really hate how politics brings out the worst in people.  Religion is pretty much tied with politics in that sense.  Want to bring a dinner party to a standstill?  Mention either religion or politics and boom, it's destroyed.  My niece summed up for me the NDP stance this weekend when she told the whole family how dumb we were because we were voting Liberal or Conservative, instead of the "obvious" choice which was the NDP, because all the other parties worried about was "money".  This from someone who is 100% dependent on her parents to pay her tuition, her books, her dorm, her clothes, her food, everything.  Just delusional.  Of course you don't have to "worry about money", that's mom and dad's problem.  When you don't have to worry about money, and have nothing to lose, the NDP is definitely the obvious choice.

 

If your niece is dependent upon her parents to pay for everything, its no wonder she believes the NDP are the rightful party.  She wants to be taken care of.  One day, when she has a career and assets and money of her own, chances are she will begin to feel like the money she makes should be hers to keep, people who want to be taken care of from cradle to grave are wrong and the government should mind its own business. 

 

 

Which just proves the axiom: "If you are young and you aren't a socialist, then you have no heart.  If you are old and you aren't a Conservative, then you have no brain."

[sweep the leg]

 

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have. 

 

You insulted the people you called idiots. We can agree that there is a problem with thin skin in this thread.

[kelownabomberfan]

 

 

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have. 

 

You insulted the people you called idiots. We can agree that there is a problem with thin skin in this thread.

 

 

Yes, because the NDP are idiots.  In my humble opinion. Especially the ones that lie, constantly.  My respect for those that tolerate the constant lying, in the name of partisanship, is extremely low too.

[iso_55]

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. If anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives out to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry after being bombarded by them in the past 8 months. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. This coming from a long time Conservative voter who may not vote for them this election. I really found those ads to be boneheadingly arrogant. Enough to turn me off. 

[kelownabomberfan]

 

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. if anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry with being bombarded by them. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. Just boneheaded ads.

 

 

What I couldn't get was the NDP mimicking the attack ads and doing the same to Harper.  The NDP seems to have totally missed the fact that the Liberals were their true enemy in this election, not the Conservatives.  And now they are paying the price.  But I agree, the Nice Hair Though ads were a huge backfire.

[iso_55]

 

 

 

 

Insulting people while complaining about being bullied is a tough act to pull off.

 

 

 

You can tell the length of the campaign by the anger and rhetoric in some of these posts. We've gotten to the point of disgust and shame with each other.

 

 

I am insulting people because I point out their hypocrisy?  Really.  What thin-skins we all have. 

 

You insulted the people you called idiots. We can agree that there is a problem with thin skin in this thread.

 

 

Yes, because the NDP are idiots.  In my humble opinion. Especially the ones that lie, constantly.  My respect for those that tolerate the constant lying, in the name of partisanship, is extremely low too.

 

ABTNDP

[The Unknown Poster]

 

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. If anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives out to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry after being bombarded by them in the past 8 months. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. This coming from a long time Conservative voter who may not vote for them this election. I really found those ads to be boneheadingly arrogant. Enough to turn me off. 

 

I disagree.  I dont think the Liberal rise has anything to do with anything other then the decline of the NDP. 

 

And we knew this was possible.  There was a lot of undecided and the second choice of both Liberals and NDP were each other.  So realistically, if enough NDP supporters wanted Harper out more than they wanted Mulcair in, this was inevitable.

[iso_55]

 

 

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. If anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives out to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry after being bombarded by them in the past 8 months. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. This coming from a long time Conservative voter who may not vote for them this election. I really found those ads to be boneheadingly arrogant. Enough to turn me off. 

 

I disagree.  I dont think the Liberal rise has anything to do with anything other then the decline of the NDP. 

 

And we knew this was possible.  There was a lot of undecided and the second choice of both Liberals and NDP were each other.  So realistically, if enough NDP supporters wanted Harper out more than they wanted Mulcair in, this was inevitable.

 

It's not that simple. People vote the way they do for a reason & more likely it's a personal reason. Do you think all the anti Harper voters who were considering the NDP but changed their minds had this massive conference call where they all decided at once to vote for Trudeau? The NDP scare a lot of voters. It's not always the big things that make people change their minds but the little things as well. I'm sure that there were more than a few Conservative voters who got tired & annoyed with that ad & the way the party was conducting this election that made them support Trudeau. I'm considering supporting Trudeau solely just because of those damned stupid ads. More out of spite because the Conservatives treat us like we're stupid. I'm sure a lot of other voters feel the same way. The Conservatives blew it. 

[basslicker]

I think you need to reexamine things, if you see that as a liberal tactic rather than a political tactic that the Conservatives are just as guilty of.

I just can't get over the image of Putin and Trudeau in the same room together. Putin just pointing and laughing and realizing that the entire Canadian north is now his for the plucking.

This is why Trudeau is a bad choice. No way can he stand up to actual leaders. He'd make us a joke. I'd take putin over him in a heartbeat. Putin is strong and actually defends his country's culture and traditions.

Why couldn't he? Because attack ads told you so?

Justin told me so. Every time he opens his mouth.

[iso_55]

I guess our leaders are expected to wrestle bears. Or Lions. 

[basslicker]

I guess our leaders are expected to wrestle bears. Or Lions.

If by bears and lions you mean foreign policy and economics.....then yes.

[Mr Dee]

There is more than enough evidence that proves Harper has not been a good PM for this country, nor should he have the opportunity to continue. But he still might get that chance, and that would be a shame. But that's my opinion.

Notice - no ranting or raving or calling out any party followers idiots, morons or nutty-nuts.

Believe what you choose to believe but, look at the facts, and ignore the blathering of bigoted posters.

And again, ABH.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

 

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. If anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives out to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry after being bombarded by them in the past 8 months. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. This coming from a long time Conservative voter who may not vote for them this election. I really found those ads to be boneheadingly arrogant. Enough to turn me off. 

 

I disagree.  I dont think the Liberal rise has anything to do with anything other then the decline of the NDP. 

 

And we knew this was possible.  There was a lot of undecided and the second choice of both Liberals and NDP were each other.  So realistically, if enough NDP supporters wanted Harper out more than they wanted Mulcair in, this was inevitable.

 

It's not that simple. People vote the way they do for a reason & more likely it's a personal reason. Do you think all the anti Harper voters who were considering the NDP but changed their minds had this massive conference call where they all decided at once to vote for Trudeau? The NDP scare a lot of voters. It's not always the big things that make people change their minds but the little things as well. I'm sure that there were more than a few Conservative voters who got tired & annoyed with that ad & the way the party was conducting this election that made them support Trudeau. I'm considering supporting Trudeau solely just because of those damned stupid ads. More out of spite because the Conservatives treat us like we're stupid. I'm sure a lot of other voters feel the same way. The Conservatives blew it. 

 

No not all.  Some.  Enough. 

[iso_55]

 

 

 

 

It's really amazing to me how many people have bought into the propaganda of "Justin Trudeau Is A 20 Year Old 'Millennial'" that Harper's campaign has been spouting. 

Maybe not as many as you think. The Trudeau attack ads seemed to have backfired on the Conservatives. If anything, they've helped Trudeau & made the Conservatives out to be asshats. I think people first found them amusing, then annoying  & then became angry after being bombarded by them in the past 8 months. I think it turned a lot of potential voters off from the Conservatives. This coming from a long time Conservative voter who may not vote for them this election. I really found those ads to be boneheadingly arrogant. Enough to turn me off. 

 

I disagree.  I dont think the Liberal rise has anything to do with anything other then the decline of the NDP. 

 

And we knew this was possible.  There was a lot of undecided and the second choice of both Liberals and NDP were each other.  So realistically, if enough NDP supporters wanted Harper out more than they wanted Mulcair in, this was inevitable.

 

It's not that simple. People vote the way they do for a reason & more likely it's a personal reason. Do you think all the anti Harper voters who were considering the NDP but changed their minds had this massive conference call where they all decided at once to vote for Trudeau? The NDP scare a lot of voters. It's not always the big things that make people change their minds but the little things as well. I'm sure that there were more than a few Conservative voters who got tired & annoyed with that ad & the way the party was conducting this election that made them support Trudeau. I'm considering supporting Trudeau solely just because of those damned stupid ads. More out of spite because the Conservatives treat us like we're stupid. I'm sure a lot of other voters feel the same way. The Conservatives blew it. 

 

No not all.  Some.  Enough. 

 

But again, not as cut & dried as you made it out to be, either.

[The Unknown Poster]

There is more than enough evidence that proves Harper has not been a good PM for this country, nor should he have the opportunity to continue. But he still might get that chance, and that would be a shame. But that's my opinion.

Notice - no ranting or raving or calling out any party followers idiots, morons or nutty-nuts.

Believe what you choose to believe but, look at the facts, and ignore the blathering of bigoted posters.

And again, ABH.

I think people have reasons if that's their political perspective.  And I am cool with that.  Its the craziness that drives me nuts.

[iso_55]

 

There is more than enough evidence that proves Harper has not been a good PM for this country, nor should he have the opportunity to continue. But he still might get that chance, and that would be a shame. But that's my opinion.

Notice - no ranting or raving or calling out any party followers idiots, morons or nutty-nuts.

Believe what you choose to believe but, look at the facts, and ignore the blathering of bigoted posters.

And again, ABH.

I think people have reasons if that's their political perspective.  And I am cool with that.  Its the craziness that drives me nuts.

 

Yes, same here as I hate craziness as well. I think had Harper called the election in September after the Duffy trial he may have done a lot better. A 79 day election was a strategic move that didn't work. 

[17to85]

There is more than enough evidence that proves Harper has not been a good PM for this country, nor should he have the opportunity to continue. But he still might get that chance, and that would be a shame. But that's my opinion.

Notice - no ranting or raving or calling out any party followers idiots, morons or nutty-nuts.

Believe what you choose to believe but, look at the facts, and ignore the blathering of bigoted posters.

And again, ABH.

Most of that is based in differences in ideology though so is it really evidence? 

[Mr Dee]

There is more than enough evidence that proves Harper has not been a good PM for this country, nor should he have the opportunity to continue. But he still might get that chance, and that would be a shame. But that's my opinion.

Notice - no ranting or raving or calling out any party followers idiots, morons or nutty-nuts.

Believe what you choose to believe but, look at the facts, and ignore the blathering of bigoted posters.

And again, ABH.

Most of that is based in differences in ideology though so is it really evidence?

Oh really, he has commandeered that good a ship has he?

Ideology has nothing to do with the lack of respect he, and his office, has shown for the position he had been elected for.