bb1 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 I wonder if we sign this kid Jiri Fronk was supposed to be drafted but slipped through. Is he this year's sleeper?Isn't he like 23 2421 played one year USHL was draft eligible put up a lot of points played on the line with a Jet draft pick Erik Foley.
bustamente Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 I wonder if we sign this kid Jiri Fronk was supposed to be drafted but slipped through. Is he this year's sleeper?Isn't he like 23 2421 played one year USHL was draft eligible put up a lot of points played on the line with a Jet draft pick. Let's see what he does with the young guns next week, nothing really to lose if anything could be a good project player
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 6, 2015 Report Posted September 6, 2015 Copp I think has a job in much of the way Scheif had one. Who else can be center? Other then that maybe Lemieux. It's Moose/Junior for everyone else although I can imagine Ehlers getting a 10 game stint to start.
Goalie Posted September 6, 2015 Report Posted September 6, 2015 Well there is the strong possibility in my opinion that the 4 centers to start this year are.... Little. Scheifele. Lowry. Burmistrov (He is a natural Center) Let's just do a little updated pretend line up... one last time.... This is my final guess... Ladd,Little,Stafford Ehlers,Scheif,Wheeler Perreault,Lowry,Petan Lemieux,Burmi, Thorburn
Ducky Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Posted September 6, 2015 I know you are really high on Lemiwux but do you honestly think he makes the team before Copp?
Floyd Posted September 6, 2015 Report Posted September 6, 2015 Armia, Kosmachuk and Copp are the oldest prospects with the most experience... I would expect these guys to get a hard look this season Don't expect crazy changes... Ladd-Little-Stafford Perrault-Scheifele-Wheeler Ehlers-Lowry-Burmistrov Thorbs-Copp-Peluso (Armia/Halischuk) Enstrom-Myers Stuart-Trouba Chiarot-Buff (Postma/Pardy)
Ducky Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 Lipon was born in 93 as was Armia and Serville (no chance to make the Jets). Copp in 94, Kosmo in 94, , Kitchton in 92, Hellebuyck in 93, Olsen in 94, and Phillips in 93. Armia has to **** or get off the pot as does Lipon and Kosmo, they at least have to show great improvement. Serville won't make the team...Copp has a great chance...Hellebuyck is a matter of when and Olsen and Philips stillhave time......Kitchton has an important season coming up. He has to play well or he will go waaaaaaaaaaaay down the prospect list. Ladd - Little - Wheeler Perrault - Scheifele - Stafford Burmi - Lowry - Armia Petan - Copp - Thorbs/Peluso/Hali Enstrom - Myers Buff - Trouba Stuart/Chiarot - Postma Pavs Hutch
Ducky Posted September 8, 2015 Author Report Posted September 8, 2015 http://video.jets.nhl.com/videocenter/ Lowry talks about getting off to a better start. I couldn't agree more. Starting off on a good run of wins can mean the difference between making the playoffs or not.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 http://video.jets.nhl.com/videocenter/ Lowry talks about getting off to a better start. I couldn't agree more. Starting off on a good run of wins can mean the difference between making the playoffs or not. Be interesting this year to see who better center is...Lowry or Scheif.
Ducky Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Posted September 9, 2015 I'm not sure but I would bet Scheifele gets the bigger bucks in their next contract.
Noeller Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 Just overall. You need to define/quantify that......such a broad term, "better".....
Atomic Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 I'm expecting 55-65 points from Scheifele this year, maybe 25-35 from Lowry. Lowry is the more physical player of course but Scheifele has a higher skill level and is also stronger defensively. Scheifele just needs to get a little tougher but for now he is a tier above Lowry, for sure.
The Unknown Poster Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 I think Lowry is ahead of where they expected him. I think they ceiling'ed him out as, at best, a decent 3C, more probably a very good 4c and the fact he came into his rookie year and played himself into that 3C role is pretty remarkable and did a very good job of it. The expectation for Scheif is higher with him being the guy they want to be their franchise 1C as the years progress. I'd like to see steady progress from Scheif as far as offensive consistency goes. Im okay with a "good" year this season but he really will need to embrace that top offensive centre role soon.
Goalie Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 55 60 points is Damn near an elite center. Days of 100 plus point players is coming to an end.
Ducky Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Posted September 9, 2015 Last season, the top 5 scorers had 81-87 points so ya, 100 point centermen (players) are VERY rare.
Atomic Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 I would say you expect 55-65 from a number one center.... Not really elite, depending on your definition of the term, I suppose.
Goalie Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 Well, for sure.. but if Scheif puts up 55 60 as #2 center, that's pretty damn impressive and honestly, i see no reason why he couldn't. It also really depends on your teams make up really... Like for example, would you rather have 1 50 goal scorer or maybe 3 30 goal scorers instead? Would you rather have 1 guy with 100 points in a season or maybe 2 with well over 100 combined. Really depends on your teams make up really. Would I like Ovechkin on the Jets and would i like it if he scored 50 for us? Yup, but... at the same time, I'm fine with a bunch of guys scoring 20 goals too.
Atomic Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 Well, for sure.. but if Scheif puts up 55 60 as #2 center, that's pretty damn impressive and honestly, i see no reason why he couldn't. Sure, and that's what I'm hoping for. The team needs him to step up in a big way. Chevy is putting a lot of pressure on the young guys to carry more of the load.
Goalie Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 Well, The young guys are our future and so far... the young guys they have drafted and developed like Scheif,Trouba,Lowry for that matter have all looked good. Hopefully a couple others come in and continue the trend.
Floyd Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Great analysis of prospects... http://www.arcticicehockey.com/winnipeg-jets-top-prospects-list
Atomic Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 YoungStars tournament is going on right now, Winnipeg vs Calgary. Streaming live on the Jets website. 2-1 Calgary at the end of the first. Lemieux scored right before the period ended. Gotta love his style out there.
Goalie Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Lemieux Petan Comrie Hellebyuck Ehlers and De Leo looked good. Kostalek and Morrissey too. Lost 3 1 but still.
Atomic Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Lemieux Petan Comrie Hellebyuck Ehlers and De Leo looked good. Kostalek and Morrissey too. Lost 3 1 but still. Liked Spacek as well
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