The Unknown Poster Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 Seemed like trying to get walker the ball in space made sense but they got away from that. Went back to run up the middle into brick wall
voodoochylde Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 A lot of the success in the running game had to do with backs making something out of nothing. At the half, Nichols almost had more yards rushing than both Walker and Marshall combined. Bigblue204 and Logan007 2
WBBFanWest Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 He utilized the run a lot more effectively and there were even a few shovel/screen passes too. i think it's likely that with the win tonight he's made sure that, baring a complete breakdown in the O, he's here for the rest of the season. I don't think the running game worked out as well as planned but at least they stuck with the run tonight throughout the game so that is encouraging. On second thought that probably had more to do with never being behind by more than 7. The running game doesn't have to chew up a bunch of yards in order to be effective. They used it enough that the Rider D had to be ready for it on any given play and that helped keep them a bit off balance. At the same time, I'm not overly pumped about our running backs at the moment so hopefully Walters can find us a top drawer model in the NFL cast offs.
GCn20 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Or maybe just maybe Nichols actually saw some guys who were deep. I dunno. Wasn't at the last 2 games but... I doubt MB called 5 yard passes all game. That's on Marve and Brohm more I think. MB sucks but I'm guessing brohm and Marve just don't have the ability to go deep. Can't read the d as quick as Nichols. Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that.
gbill2004 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Or maybe just maybe Nichols actually saw some guys who were deep. I dunno. Wasn't at the last 2 games but... I doubt MB called 5 yard passes all game. That's on Marve and Brohm more I think. MB sucks but I'm guessing brohm and Marve just don't have the ability to go deep. Can't read the d as quick as Nichols. Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that. So are we now on the “let’s give Bellefeuille a long-term extension” bandwagon? lol
Bigblue204 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I've been watching our receivers lately and for the most part they run poor routes and do a terrible job of blocking. Our so called playmakers look lazy and uninspired, time for a receiver shake up. Noticed this on saturday too. I caught Adams dogging it a couple times on passing plays yet.
Bigblue204 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 This is the frustrating thing about MB. He'll give you a decent game every now and then to just hold on. The game plan worked out well enough. But lets not forget who they were playing. That Defence isn't good. It's not even decent. Montreal will be a real test.
17to85 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Or maybe just maybe Nichols actually saw some guys who were deep. I dunno. Wasn't at the last 2 games but... I doubt MB called 5 yard passes all game. That's on Marve and Brohm more I think. MB sucks but I'm guessing brohm and Marve just don't have the ability to go deep. Can't read the d as quick as Nichols. Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that. So here's my question, both Brohm and Marve talked about their frustration with no big plays available, yet Willy and Nichols seemed to have no trouble with that, what if it was Bellefool who did call nothing but short crap because he didn't trust his qbs? That's a possibility given the stark differences between Brohm and Marve and WIlly and Nichols. It certainly could be a simple case of Willy and Nichols are just better, but I do wonder. Bellefeuille to me seems to try and out think himself at the best of times, it's entirely within the realm of possibility he did it with Brohm/Marve too.
gbill2004 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Or maybe just maybe Nichols actually saw some guys who were deep. I dunno. Wasn't at the last 2 games but... I doubt MB called 5 yard passes all game. That's on Marve and Brohm more I think. MB sucks but I'm guessing brohm and Marve just don't have the ability to go deep. Can't read the d as quick as Nichols. Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that. So here's my question, both Brohm and Marve talked about their frustration with no big plays available, yet Willy and Nichols seemed to have no trouble with that, what if it was Bellefool who did call nothing but short crap because he didn't trust his qbs? That's a possibility given the stark differences between Brohm and Marve and WIlly and Nichols. It certainly could be a simple case of Willy and Nichols are just better, but I do wonder. Bellefeuille to me seems to try and out think himself at the best of times, it's entirely within the realm of possibility he did it with Brohm/Marve too. In one of the games Marve started, he went deep a few times. Once it was badly overthrown to Nick Moore. The other time, he threw deep into triple coverage and it was almost picked.
Guest J5V Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Or maybe just maybe Nichols actually saw some guys who were deep. I dunno. Wasn't at the last 2 games but... I doubt MB called 5 yard passes all game. That's on Marve and Brohm more I think. MB sucks but I'm guessing brohm and Marve just don't have the ability to go deep. Can't read the d as quick as Nichols. Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner. Not going to defend Bellefeuille totally but a large part of our total ineptness on offence over the past few weeks is in large part because Brohm and Marve are not or are not ready to be CFL QBs. Nichols performance on just 4 days practice in our offence proves that. So are we now on the “let’s give Bellefeuille a long-term extension” bandwagon? lol
do or die Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I've been watching our receivers lately and for the most part they run poor routes and do a terrible job of blocking. Our so called playmakers look lazy and uninspired, time for a receiver shake up. Noticed this on saturday too. I caught Adams dogging it a couple times on passing plays yet. Saw this in the Calgary game, as well.....
SPuDS Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I've been watching our receivers lately and for the most part they run poor routes and do a terrible job of blocking. Our so called playmakers look lazy and uninspired, time for a receiver shake up. Noticed this on saturday too. I caught Adams dogging it a couple times on passing plays yet. Saw this in the Calgary game, as well..... Could be that they are... Or were... Tired of being tossed suicide balls and not being involved in the play if they ran farther then 10 yards? Blocking, denmark and watson used to be our best.. JFG does admirably as does Kohlert but too small to be of much use.. Moores meh and adams is like a younger Romby.. Talented but not much for effort if not into then play.. We also have to remember,, if they are fast, good route runners, focused and excellent blockers... They aint in the CFL. Everyone is going to have some warts essentially..
dmillerywg Posted September 18, 2015 Report Posted September 18, 2015 Denmark has been dogging it for over a month if you ask me Moore is by far out best REC but he is out every 1/3 of the games Adams is our second best and has missed some time. Denmark is having Another off year his best year was last year but the year before was bad and this year is bad to me its time to move on... We need IMP REC depth asap Veltung is ok but isn't lighting the world on fire and he has been banged up as well, I like what I have seen of Willie but he has only gotten in a few plays. We lack big strong RECs that can take the hits to me this is the single biggest area of failure for Walters and company, be bought in 10 or so new RECs and only Veltung remains and so far he is ok but nothing special ? Wille was cut and brought back...
blitzmore Posted September 18, 2015 Report Posted September 18, 2015 Denmark has been dogging it? You have got to be kidding...he has had no one to throw to him since Willy got hurt. And Adams is our second best? Based on what the number of games he has missed? Veltung has been in for how many games? Talk about subjective thinking.... Mr Dee 1
voodoochylde Posted September 18, 2015 Report Posted September 18, 2015 Shitty QB play and the receivers are at fault? Granted .. Adams has looked uninspired the last little while but Denmark has always stepped up on the field .. can't help that the hot mess we had in place before Nichols either one hopped passes from here to eternity or couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if it was 20 yards away.
Tracker Posted September 18, 2015 Report Posted September 18, 2015 Shitty QB play and the receivers are at fault? Granted .. Adams has looked uninspired the last little while but Denmark has always stepped up on the field .. can't help that the hot mess we had in place before Nichols either one hopped passes from here to eternity or couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if it was 20 yards away.Adams had better get on his horse and start performing. He looked great in that one game but has done nothing since. Looks to have the talent but not the drive but he is not going to be much longer if he doesn't smarten up.
Brandon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Posted September 18, 2015 It's fun to pile on a receiver when we have nothing else to talk about. It's also fun to forget about a guybbeing hurt and a stretch of games where the qbs absolutely stunk. Mr Dee 1
Floyd Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 I wonder what Bob Wylie would be like as an Offensive Coordinator...? Markus Howell? Have to pull the trigger.
Geebrr Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 Bob Wylie should focus on getting the Oline figured out.
do or die Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 Game plan got worse as the game wore on (again), Nichols not that accurate, as the Montreal heat pickedup . Some receivers and kick returners need a boot in the butt, as well. Some of these plays in the backfield to Denmark need to be scrubbed. Our run plays still run in slow motion. Walker is a waste of space.....
Stickem Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 The players know Bellefool is a crappy oc and the offence is just going through the motions, until he's replaced....Probably some guys are doing just enough to keep their jobs, with winning as a second thought...Something should have been done awhile ago but after now hearing we could be looking for a gm and possibly a head coach, we most likely will be saddled with this loser until the end of the season...Bad times are here again.
Floyd Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 Game plan got worse as the game wore on (again), Nichols not that accurate, as the Montreal heat pickedup . Some receivers and kick returners need a boot in the butt, as well. Some of these plays in the backfield to Denmark need to be scrubbed. Our run plays still run in slow motion. Walker is a waste of space..... Who is on our PR that can step in... no RB even in camp Wasting two PR spots on Cdn DEs ... And started 8 Cdns again
B-F-F-C Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 I wouldn't even let MB on the return flight home. Enough is enough. I've seen more imaginative play calling in peewee ball. I used to think it was the on field personnel but these last few games have completely changed my mind. Geebrr 1
gbill2004 Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 I wouldn't even let MB on the return flight home. Enough is enough. I've seen more imaginative play calling in peewee ball. I used to think it was the on field personnel but these last few games have completely changed my mind. Today wasn't MB's fault. Today was on the players. Noeller 1
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