Floyd Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Wish we were out of the playoffs so we could at least see what Davis has... or, oh, wait there's no one else.
iso_55 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 A lot of you folks want to hang on to O'Shea the way O'Shea hangs on to the guys he likes. No real reason for it. You just like the guy. Yeah, if anything the MOS Kool Aid Drinkers here should understand why their boy sticks to a loser like MB because they do the same for MOS. "WE LIKE MIKE". Well, Mike likes MB. Classic. LOL!! rebusrankin 1
The Unknown Poster Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Bombers braintrust, including MOS Walters and Miller have no clue on offence. And so the choice of the next OC is an important one. Hopefully that person will design the offence around a dual threat QB - who is yet to be found. Shouldn't he design the O around Drew Willy's skill set? rebusrankin, Goalie and iso_55 3
voodoochylde Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Bombers braintrust, including MOS Walters and Miller have no clue on offence. And so the choice of the next OC is an important one. Hopefully that person will design the offence around a dual threat QB - who is yet to be found. Shouldn't he design the O around Drew Willy's skill set? And be competent enough to make adjustments in his scheme if personnel change due to injury or circumstance. Enough of trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
Mark F Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 How does anyone know what Drew Willy actually wanted? Maybe his wife knows what he really thinks. We don't. Unless someone did the mind meld on him. Did anyone notice Mike O'Shea arguing with the ref at the end of the half the other day about time on the clock? couple of seconds left no chance of scoring? what was that about?
iso_55 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Willy would endorse Ronald McDonald if he was his OC. Players don't say anything bad about their coaches publicly. rebusrankin and DR. CFL 2
Booch Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 How does anyone know what Drew Willy actually wanted? Maybe his wife knows what he really thinks. We don't. Unless someone did the mind meld on him. Did anyone notice Mike O'Shea arguing with the ref at the end of the half the other day about time on the clock? couple of seconds left no chance of scoring? what was that about? yeah we got screwed there...and good on him arguing....go long...get a PI call and you kick a field goal to close the half...smart on his part
Doublezero Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Bombers braintrust, including MOS Walters and Miller have no clue on offence. And so the choice of the next OC is an important one. Hopefully that person will design the offence around a dual threat QB - who is yet to be found. Shouldn't he design the O around Drew Willy's skill set? Well, I'm throwing it out there that, unfortunately, Winnipeg likely needs a new starter. Someone more mobile and who reads and delivers the ball quicker and from different launch points. Of the limited number of wins Bombers have had past 2 years, relatively few have been due to outstanding QB play. Wins have been greatly assisted by outstanding play of D and ST - who scored needed points. Bomber fans are so starved for good QB play at even average looks good. Here's another hard truth: unfortunately that broken leg isn't going to make Drew Willy any faster or nimble, post recovery. And with the obligation to pay him $400k next year ... well the Bombers are actually in a bit of a pickle at QB. That's a lot of money and commitment tied up in a question mark. Obviously Marcel isn't up to it and what's really scary is that there's no evidence MOS Walters or Miller can even diagnose, let alone remedy, what ails the O. But it starts and ends at QB and IMHO we haven't been trustworthy at that position.
Mr Dee Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Drew Willy is not, and hasn't been the problem in our Offence. We have the worst O in the CFL, but when Willy was playing, at least we had a chance to compete and win. Look elsewhere for the real problem..and you don't have to look far. SPuDS 1
iso_55 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 An offense should be designed for the types of players you have. MB's offense doesn't do that. He's run the same O in Sask, Montreal & Hamilton. I've seen Willy do fakes & at times turn his back to the play doing these fakes & then have to try to find an open receiver. That means Willy who holds onto the ball too long at the best of times has to hold onto it even longer. Look at what the top offenses do. Their qbs never turn their back to the defense on a pass. They rely on quick hitters, getting the ball out fast & spreading things out all over the field. If 40 year old Hank Burris in Ottawa & a 24 year old rookie qb Josh Mathews in Hamilton can do it & have success, then we need to be doing the same. We don't. So we get killed. Defenses love to play us. Doublezero 1
Doublezero Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 An offense should be designed for the types of players you have. MB's offense doesn't do that. He's run the same O in Sask, Montreal & Hamilton. I've seen Willy do fakes & at times turn his back to the play doing these fakes & then have to try to find an open receiver. That means Willy who holds onto the ball too long at the best of times has to hold onto it even longer. Look at what the top offenses do. Their qbs never turn their back to the defense on a pass. They rely on quick hitters, getting the ball out fast & spreading things out all over the field. If 40 year old Hank Burris in Ottawa & a 24 year old rookie qb Josh Mathews in Hamilton can do it & have success, then we need to be doing the same. We don't. So we get killed. Defenses love to play us. I don't know what kind of chemistry Marcel and Willy have had. Willy wanted his OC on the sidelines and Marcel appeared reluctant - but agreed. Then as soon as Willy gets injured again (which is fairly often BTW) and the next QB installed, Marcel scoots back upstairs.
rebusrankin Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Willy would endorse Ronald McDonald if he was his OC. Players don't say anything bad about their coaches publicly. Ronald actually ran a pretty good offense back in the day. Made Grimace look like a quality QB. Had the Hamburgler running wild as a dual threat back iso_55 1
iso_55 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 An offense should be designed for the types of players you have. MB's offense doesn't do that. He's run the same O in Sask, Montreal & Hamilton. I've seen Willy do fakes & at times turn his back to the play doing these fakes & then have to try to find an open receiver. That means Willy who holds onto the ball too long at the best of times has to hold onto it even longer. Look at what the top offenses do. Their qbs never turn their back to the defense on a pass. They rely on quick hitters, getting the ball out fast & spreading things out all over the field. If 40 year old Hank Burris in Ottawa & a 24 year old rookie qb Josh Mathews in Hamilton can do it & have success, then we need to be doing the same. We don't. So we get killed. Defenses love to play us. I don't know what kind of chemistry Marcel and Willy have had. Willy wanted his OC on the sidelines and Marcel appeared reluctant - but agreed. Then as soon as Willy gets injured again (which is fairly often BTW) and the next QB installed, Marcel scoots back upstairs. Willy has a qb coach to talk to on the sidelines. MB doesn't have time to talk to Willy during a game much as he's too busy.
Fatty Liver Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 An offense should be designed for the types of players you have. MB's offense doesn't do that. He's run the same O in Sask, Montreal & Hamilton. I've seen Willy do fakes & at times turn his back to the play doing these fakes & then have to try to find an open receiver. That means Willy who holds onto the ball too long at the best of times has to hold onto it even longer. Look at what the top offenses do. Their qbs never turn their back to the defense on a pass. They rely on quick hitters, getting the ball out fast & spreading things out all over the field. If 40 year old Hank Burris in Ottawa & a 24 year old rookie qb Josh Mathews in Hamilton can do it & have success, then we need to be doing the same. We don't. So we get killed. Defenses love to play us. I don't know what kind of chemistry Marcel and Willy have had. Willy wanted his OC on the sidelines and Marcel appeared reluctant - but agreed. Then as soon as Willy gets injured again (which is fairly often BTW) and the next QB installed, Marcel scoots back upstairs. Willy has a qb coach to talk to on the sidelines. MB doesn't have time to talk to Willy during a game much as he's too busy. I think Marcel is challenged to figure out what the other team is doing at the best of times. Sitting up in the box gives him an entire half to figure out what to do about it.
DR. CFL Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 The sidelines are the worst possible place for an OC or DC to. Get a true picture of the game and the field.
blitzmore Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 How does anyone know what Drew Willy actually wanted? Maybe his wife knows what he really thinks. We don't. Unless someone did the mind meld on him. Did anyone notice Mike O'Shea arguing with the ref at the end of the half the other day about time on the clock? couple of seconds left no chance of scoring? what was that about? Maybe Willy knows...he said it in an on air interview
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 A lot of you folks want to hang on to O'Shea the way O'Shea hangs on to the guys he likes. No real reason for it. You just like the guy. No. If you actually pay attention to the guy you can see he is media savvy. He also gets a lot from the players under his direction.. Special teams and defense i assume he puts his twist or stamps on. Hes also a guy who is versed in what a team needs to be in the current cfl.. His only glaring hole I see is that he trusts his coordinators too much. Bellfool was given the keys to the car and now that he has smacked it up, we get to ride this crap box until we can adequately replace him.. But feel free to tell me why I like someone as a coach again plz.
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 A lot of you folks want to hang on to O'Shea the way O'Shea hangs on to the guys he likes. No real reason for it. You just like the guy.Yeah, if anything the MOS Kool Aid Drinkers here should understand why their boy sticks to a loser like MB because they do the same for MOS. "WE LIKE MIKE". Well, Mike likes MB. Classic. LOL!! Having an oc.. Even a horrible one.. Is better then having none. Honestly, who would you have brought in? Bump up two zero experienced assistants? i dont think too many good quality OCs are chomping at the bit to join the bombers mid season. Beginning of the season? Sure. Shoulda changed. Maybe they even tried to and couldnt entice anyone. maybe we are stuck with MB or less.. At least at the end of the season we have the best chance to land a legit replacement for him..
Tracker Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 There is a point to firing Bellefeuille soonest possible- it sends a long overdue message that incompetence has consequences and in reality, a nutless monkey could lose games as OC. rebusrankin 1
Fatty Liver Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 What I don't want to see is Sask. upstage the Bombers in the off-season by signing a more accomplished coach or coordinators. If the Bombers doddle again this year with meetings and season reviews, they deserve the leftovers.
Tracker Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 What I don't want to see is Sask. upstage the Bombers in the off-season by signing a more accomplished coach or coordinators. If the Bombers doddle again this year with meetings and season reviews, they deserve the leftovers. Dead on. If the Bombers are going to make the changes as they ought to, they should be making that decision right now, even if it is not going to be announced until later. Otherwise, we are looking at leftovers again. Time to go shopping.
Goalie Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 Nobody is available right now. You fire Bellefuile after the season and then talk to people you want too. Nobody is really available to talk to now except lapolice. That's not happening. Better chance he's head coach in sask. SPuDS 1
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 Nobody is available right now. You fire Bellefuile after the season and then talk to people you want too. Nobody is really available to talk to now except lapolice. That's not happening. Better chance he's head coach in sask. I will say it will be embarrassing if an OC chooses to go to the riders over us.. If we look like a circus.. Ridervilles gotta be the freakshow.
Taynted_Fayth Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 The more I think about it, the more I feel MB has been HC ( even tho Oshea does the PR. Clearly Osh has expressed disappointment with the O yet does nothing as the HC to change any calls admiting he's got nothing to do with the offense. I have a feeling Oshea n MB will be let go together and hall will be promoted this offseason based on results. In essence cutting our STC n OC but making our DC the new figure head and let him bring in who he wants
Tracker Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 The more I think about it, the more I feel MB has been HC ( even tho Oshea does the PR. Clearly Osh has expressed disappointment with the O yet does nothing as the HC to change any calls admitting he's got nothing to do with the offense. I have a feeling Oshea n MB will be let go together and hall will be promoted this off-season based on results. In essence cutting our STC n OC but making our DC the new figure head and let him bring in who he wants Hall is bright and personable and his defence has been the only bright spot this year despite a weak D-line, but his record when a head coach wasn't great, if memory serves. There may have been extenuating factors but if so, I don't know what they would have been. DR. CFL 1
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