FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 19, 2016 Report Posted January 19, 2016 Coyotes are the bad guy here. Fans had the right to vote him in. They tried to sweep the mess up under the carpet. The coach could have benched him after the first minute in the allstar game. Want the game to mean something? Have the winners get 4/7 games in the final. Problem solved.
Rich Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Situation is going from bad to worse in Tampa and Drouin isn't doing himself any favours.
Brandon Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Drouin and/or his agents ego is ridiculous... Trade the bum to Buffalo and let him rot. bustamente 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 That's very bad advice from a character perspectice. From a practical perspective it makes sense but I'm not sure the damage done to his reputation isn't way more than any minor risk of injury. it would be fitting if that "imminent trade" was called off due to this....
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 If he plays like some people say he can, that "damage" will be forgotten.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 I imagine the Lightening will just want to get something for him. But they should let him sit out his contract. Of which he's an RFA so if he ever wants to play hockey in North America again he needs to make amends to the team. ive seem it mentioned that Walsh is a lawyer and he's advising his client to not honor a contract. That's just shady. All of this risks driving his value down. Why should the team accept less because the player has a **** of an agent? They should publicly announce that they will not consider a trade this season and will reconsider in the summer.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 This year, the Lightning sent Drouin to the AHL after 38 games on the roster, which would prevent him from accruing another season of service at the NHL level (40 games). That would keep him under control as a restricted free agent until 2022, not 2021 should he be on the roster for another two games.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 2nd or 3rd for Drouin? Thoughts on BBurke wanting to expand the surface? This is something the NFL should do not so much NHL imho.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: 2nd or 3rd for Drouin? Thoughts on BBurke wanting to expand the surface? This is something the NFL should do not so much NHL imho. Old argument. Definitely not a new suggestion and a non-starter since its much too difficult to retrofit many existing arenas to accommodate. Its just a nice way of avoiding actually doing anything constructive to improve scoring. But it's hilarious when people acknowledge the increased size of players as a reason to increase the ice and yet dont want to change the size of the nets. Change the size of the nets. Scoring increases. Easy peasy. FrostyWinnipeg 1
HardCoreBlue Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 16 hours ago, Rich said: Situation is going from bad to worse in Tampa and Drouin isn't doing himself any favours. Drouin has really now poked the bear hard (i.e., Yzerman) and has upped the ante. One of the key key points for me (and Craig Button made the same point) is that Yzerman will send a message to all of his players in his organization that this is how we operate if you decide to take this same route with us. This is going to be fun to watch.
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 2nd or 3rd for Drouin? You mean 2nd or 3rd round draft pick? If you think that is all TB gets for Drouin, think again.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) No kidding. its up to Drouin he wants to hire as his agent but Walsh just seems to have mis handled this one completely. And the idea of sitting to avoid injury when a deal is "imminent" doesnt hold water since 1) The Bolts claim they never said a deal was close 2) if Drouin was willing to play for the big club, then what's the difference. The flip side is the people that argue its enslaving people and players should not be drafted but should choose their team. Edited January 21, 2016 by The Unknown Poster
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Walsh is to blame? Who does he work for? Oh ya, Drouin...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ducky said: Walsh is to blame? Who does he work for? Oh ya, Drouin... 20 year old kid? He's taking advice of his agent. If he's not, he shouldnt pay the big bucks to him.
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 He is given advice. He chooses what to do with that advice. I have nothing wrong with him forcing his hand. Takes some leverage away from Yzerman but it is what it is. Hard to believe he can't make the team though. This guy put up better numbers than Ehlers in the Q .
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Let him sit for as long as you can. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ducky said: He is given advice. He chooses what to do with that advice. I have nothing wrong with him forcing his hand. Takes some leverage away from Yzerman but it is what it is. Hard to believe he can't make the team though. This guy put up better numbers than Ehlers in the Q . How does it take leverage away from Yzerman? It puts all the balls is Y's court. Drouin has zero leverage. He quit on the team. He lowers offers because other teams know the relationship is fractured. He likely decreases the interested teams because of perceived character issues he has. And he's antagonized the Lightening enough that they have zero reason to dress him for the two more games he needs to blow a year off his free agency. This was a terrible strategy by Drouin and Walsh. Compare it to Hamonic when his trade request was leaked. He addressed his team mates, had a presser and agreed to do everything possible to help the process including showing up every game and playing his best and accepting that the islanders would do what was best for them. Drouin might yet be traded and it might work out for him. But he has hurt himself with this strategy. He had 6 goals in, what, 70+ games? He's talented but he hasnt earned anything.
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 40 points in 89 NHL games....not bad.... I meant it took leverage away from Yzerman when dealing with other teams to trade him to. ..Drouin has no leverage which is why he is forcing a trade....what else can he do, TB owns his rights for years...he doesn't care what TB gets back. The Unknown Poster 1
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-sekac-from-ducks-1.426482 The Hawks trade a 30 year old for a 23 year old.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Ducky said: http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-sekac-from-ducks-1.426482 The Hawks trade a 30 year old for a 23 year old. That team can do no wrong it seems. Ducky 1
bustamente Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Yzerman is as stubborn as they get, Drouin and Walsh picked a fight that they can't win, the kid doesn't own the team,doesn't run the team he is a young player who thinks that he has the right to play in the NHL and quickly found out this is the the case. There is a right way to ask for a trade and a wrong way, he and his agent have gone about it the wrong way.
Ducky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Some of Walsh's clients.... Buff, Fleury, Tarasenko, Landeskog, Krejci, MacDonagh, Hedman, RNH and many more. He's no rookie...
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