Cam P Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: WTF! Holy smokes. Thats a big one. Someone more familiar with all the players, dissect this one and tell me how I should feel about it! This is a whole lot of mediocre hockey players swapping places. The only reason it's a big deal is because its Toronto and Ottawa. If this deal happened between Florida and Tampa Bay it would barely be discussed.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Cam P said: This is a whole lot of mediocre hockey players swapping places. The only reason it's a big deal is because its Toronto and Ottawa. If this deal happened between Florida and Tampa Bay it would barely be discussed. Well it's a lot of players and quite a bit of money.
Cam P Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Well it's a lot of players and quite a bit of money. The deal is basically Phaneuf for Michalek. All of the other players involved are playing in the AHL or are prospects. This deal will have very little impact on the NHL level.
Noeller Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Dion Phaneuf personified everything that was wrong with the Leafs. I have no doubts he'll help the Sens as a 3/4 D with no letter, but as the Captain of the Leafs, expected to be the #1 guy, and being paid like it......all kinds of wrong fit.
Brandon Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 This is a huge trade... mainly for the salary dump by the Leafs.
Cam P Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Noeller said: Dion Phaneuf personified everything that was wrong with the Leafs. I have no doubts he'll help the Sens as a 3/4 D with no letter, but as the Captain of the Leafs, expected to be the #1 guy, and being paid like it......all kinds of wrong fit. This i agree with. It's a good deal for Dion. He's going to a team that has an established #1 Dman now, so he can play his role and not be expected to be a superstar. Noeller 1
Goalie Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Reality. Cowen makes 3.1 million. Michalek makes 4 million. Greening makes 2.5 So really.... not much of a salary dump at all .. however Michalek is a ufa to be. That's basically the deal there. Dion for Cowen Greening Michalek. The rest are AHL players for AHL players Edited February 9, 2016 by Goalie
Cam P Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Brandon said: This is a huge trade... mainly for the salary dump by the Leafs. They actually took on more salary (for this year anyways) then they sent out.
Noeller Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Apparently those guys are all done in 1 year, so the money is basically irrelevant to the Leafs. That's what I read on Twitter, anyhow....
Jimmy Pop Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Noeller said: Apparently those guys are all done in 1 year, so the money is basically irrelevant to the Leafs. That's what I read on Twitter, anyhow.... They're all up in 2016/17, completely irrelevant to the Leafs concerns. Phaneuf is signed thru 20/21. Very little NHL impact??!? LOL. Completely changed the face of 2 franchises. And opens the door for the league's biggest spender to bring in some big FAs.
Brandon Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Cam P said: They actually took on more salary (for this year anyways) then they sent out. Those guys are going to get flipped also to other teams... massive salary dump for the Leafs.
Cam P Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said: They're all up in 2016/17, completely irrelevant to the Leafs concerns. Phaneuf is signed thru 20/21. Very little NHL impact??!? LOL. Completely changed the face of 2 franchises. And opens the door for the league's biggest spender to bring in some big FAs. I wouldn't say it changed the face of 2 franchises. Sure Dion Phaneuf was the leafs captain, but is he really actually a good hockey player? He's a 3/4 D man at best, but I do like the situation he's going into in Ottawa. Ottawa basically traded away the corpse of Milan Michalek and a bunch of AHL players and added a mid-tier D-Man, so it doesn't change them a whole lot. The last part I do agree with - The real value in this trade will be what Toronto does with all their free cap space this summer. I still don't consider this to be a "Blockbuster" trade like some are calling it though. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 It's not a blockbuster. It's basically a cap dump for other cap dumps. RyJo and Jones was a blockbuster
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Their version of Tlusty?
Goalie Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Lol. Hudler is 100 x the player Tlusty is
Floyd Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Not sure I understand this trade without TO retaining salary... strange move by Ottawa, they need D help but this is a killer cap contract
Goalie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Ottawa is a team that doesn't need to worry about money so much. They are a budget team for sure but... they have a ton of prospects coming and a ton on ELC deals still, actually several of their players are on very good deals. Phaneuf isn't an awful contract, it's just way 2 long. The cap hit isn't as bad as some thought it would be. He is still a good player, just probably put in the wrong role in toronto.
bustamente Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Leafs needed to dump Phaneufs contract if Stamkos gets to free agency and the Leafs do not get him leaf nation who all ready think that he's theres will go crazy. Leafs took back a guy whose always hurt and guy who was sitting in Ottawa and guy who was in the minors all in all they did what they needed to do and will shed more contracts in the next 20 days. Now why would Stamkos sign in Toronto when they won't be playoff contenders for years simply for money that's it if he wants to win he will stay in Tampa and make a little less money.
Rich Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, bustamente said: Leafs needed to dump Phaneufs contract if Stamkos gets to free agency and the Leafs do not get him leaf nation who all ready think that he's theres will go crazy. Leafs took back a guy whose always hurt and guy who was sitting in Ottawa and guy who was in the minors all in all they did what they needed to do and will shed more contracts in the next 20 days. Now why would Stamkos sign in Toronto when they won't be playoff contenders for years simply for money that's it if he wants to win he will stay in Tampa and make a little less money. Or because he is from Toronto and has always wanted to play for the Leafs.
Floyd Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Leafs will just step into another 'saviour' blunder with Stamkos... make him highest paid player in the league, have nothing left for supporting cast - its their 'thing'
Goalie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 They will have a bunch of guys on ELC deals. However Reilly is RFA
bearpants Posted February 11, 2016 Report Posted February 11, 2016 My favourite joke from this Tor/Ott trade... which team is trying to tank more, Tor for getting rid of Phaneuf or Ott for picking up Phaneuf? FrostyWinnipeg, Brandon and The Unknown Poster 3
The Unknown Poster Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Posted February 12, 2016 So Price is out for the year now. How about Ladd & Pavs to Montreal for ???
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