Taynted_Fayth Posted November 13, 2015 Report Posted November 13, 2015 I believe the media will vote sinopli, but I think it goes without saying westerman is probably a close runner up for Dmop (bighill ahead of him but only 1 can rep the west), can you say the same about sinopli for mop? That alone should give westerman the nod but apparently feel good stories usually stand in the way of logic
SPuDS Posted November 13, 2015 Report Posted November 13, 2015 So would this be an appropriate time to dig up some of those posts saying what a bust Westerman was? Biiiiiiiiiig time! But we dont do that here.. Do we?
holoman Posted November 13, 2015 Report Posted November 13, 2015 I know we're biased but the way that I look at it is Sinopoli wasn't even the best receiver on his team much less the league (stats wise), whereas Westerman was on his team and was number 2 in the league Mark F and bigg jay 2
pigseye Posted November 13, 2015 Report Posted November 13, 2015 Congrats to Westerman, the best season by a Bomber national in quite some time. Unfortunately, the winner rarely comes from a losing club.
Dragon37 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 I know we're biased but the way that I look at it is Sinopoli wasn't even the best receiver on his team much less the league (stats wise), whereas Westerman was on his team and was number 2 in the league The thing about Sinopoli is that there really was no indication that he was anywhere near what he turned out to be this year. He went from a reliable hands receiver to a 1000 yard receiver and one that was getting it done after the catch as well. Westerman had a great year, no doubt, but it was pretty much anticipated that he would. He has the experience. Not one person here would have predicted how much of a jump that Sinopoli would make. I wouldn't be disappointed if Westerman won and it it would be deserved, but I just cannot see any voting member ignoring what Sinopoli did this year. Either way the big winner will be the NI talent across the league because of what these two managed to do. I hope this inspires more NIs to higher goals and encourages more NI to stick with the CFL
brett_c_b Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 The media just loves that QB-turned-Rec story and will be all over that when voting. Matthew Scianitti tweeted his awards ballot. Westerman is one of his two votes as All Star at DE. Sinopli isn't one of his all star wide receivers. Sinopli is his vote for outstanding Canadian, his rational is because he reinvented himself and "the WR is reliable. Period"
rebusrankin Posted November 15, 2015 Report Posted November 15, 2015 The award is most outstanding canadian, not award for the guy who reinvented himself or guy with a great story. SPuDS and Noeller 2
bluto Posted November 15, 2015 Report Posted November 15, 2015 Relax. Westerman wins it without getting out of second gear.
17to85 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Relax. Westerman wins it without getting out of second gear. Not all of us have that much faith in the media.... Honestly I'm not sure a lot of the CFL media are capable of tying their own shoes let alone correctly picking the most outstanding players in the league.
TBURGESS Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Westerman certainly deserves it more and I think he'll win it but in this day and age, the 'story' often trumps everything. Sinopoli has a great back story. Canadian QB who got a shot with Calgary who changed positions to receiver to be able to play who then went 'home' to Ottawa to have his breakout year get 1000 yards helping to lead his team to first place in the east.
holoman Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 I won't be upset if Sinopoli wins it because he does deserve it, but given the choice this year, it's Westerman and it's not even close
bearpants Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Westerman certainly deserves it more and I think he'll win it but in this day and age, the 'story' often trumps everything. Sinopoli has a great back story. Canadian QB who got a shot with Calgary who changed positions to receiver to be able to play who then went 'home' to Ottawa to have his breakout year get 1000 yards helping to lead his team to first place in the east. This is exactly right... especially with the media voting... they will never pass the good story...
voodoochylde Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 The media just loves that QB-turned-Rec story and will be all over that when voting. Matthew Scianitti tweeted his awards ballot. Westerman is one of his two votes as All Star at DE. Sinopli isn't one of his all star wide receivers. Sinopli is his vote for outstanding Canadian, his rational is because he reinvented himself and "the WR is reliable. Period" Not good enough to be an all star .. but hey .. let's make you the CFL's Most Outstanding Canadian .. At this point .. it's best to just switch off any pretense of logic and what SHOULD happen and let it ride. Fatty Liver 1
AKAChip Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 I won't be upset if Sinopoli wins it because he does deserve it, but given the choice this year, it's Westerman and it's not even close Compared to Westerman he does not deserve it. Sinopoli is a run of the mill receiver. He is one of 4 1000 yard receivers and the fourth best receiver on his own team. Westerman is an elite DE. Sinopoli winning would be an embarrassment to be quite honest. rebusrankin and Noeller 2
Tracker Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 I won't be upset if Sinopoli wins it because he does deserve it, but given the choice this year, it's Westerman and it's not even close Compared to Westerman he does not deserve it. Sinopoli is a run of the mill receiver. He is one of 4 1000 yard receivers and the fourth best receiver on his own team. Westerman is an elite DE. Sinopoli winning would be an embarrassment to be quite honest. Sinopoli is a very good receiver- probably the best NI receiver in the league this year and would be a starter on any team, but good Canadian receivers are easier to come by than dominant D-linemen who also happen to be Canadian, so Westerman ought to get the nod. But the league has a vested interest in hyping the RedBlacks, so Sinopoli winning is not a stretch.
Rich Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Posted November 16, 2015 When they see Winnipeg's season ticket count drop dramatically next year, do you think the league will have a vested interest in hyping the Bombers? rebusrankin 1
Mr Dee Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Let's not underappreciate what either Westetman or Sinopoli has done. We want and need Westerman to win, and he does deserve it, but Sinopoli has been an exceptional NI who has managed to use his knowledge in what he learned at QB and transfer it to being a receiver. He's smart and athletic enough to make that work. But that speaks to his overall transference as a player, not so much of what he's done this year. He's benefited, somewhat, of a QB's record completion year, and how he's spread the ball around. That's great and might make him an all star, but, story or not, Westerman should get it.
17to85 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Look the bottom line is that the award is for the most outstanding and the season Westerman had was outstanding for any player national or international. What Sinopoli did was a good season but not really outstanding. If Westerman doesn't win what should be a slam dunk award it's a ******* joke. SPuDS 1
IC Khari Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 What should happen and what usually does happen in this league are two totally different things ... #leaguehasdeathwish
Fatty Liver Posted November 27, 2015 Report Posted November 27, 2015 I thought they might throw a bone to Wpg. for hosting the show but not to be. Only caught the last half of the telecast but Ottawa cleaned up.
rebusrankin Posted November 27, 2015 Report Posted November 27, 2015 Yeah give it to a guy who played with the only healthy oline, the MOP QB and 3 other thousand yard receivers. The media sucks. Goalie 1
Mr Dee Posted November 27, 2015 Report Posted November 27, 2015 RedBlacks AwardsSweep. 5 of 6 wins. At least they'll go home with something.
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