This is why you don't have idiots on your team ...

[IC Khari]

Sure it was a crazy ending to the Steelers Bengals game tonight, but when you look up dumb in the dictionary from here on in, you are going to see two players pictures (#55 Burfict, henceforth known as a Burfict Idiot, and #24 Jones) NFL I know, but the same thing could happen in the CFL. When will coaches learn? Having thugs on your team always ends badly.

Edited January 10, 2016 by IC Khari

[SPuDS]

Some context maybe for the non-NFL fans on the cfl fan forum

[IC Khari]

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43 minutes ago, SPuDS said:

Some context maybe for the non-NFL fans on the cfl fan forum

There was a NFL game tonight, some stuff happened ...

[iso_55]

Pac Man Jones almost signed here. What a fool. 

[IC Khari]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000620261/article/bengals-cornerback-adam-jones-blasts-referees

[Guest J5V]

Hmmm ... is Joey Porter supposed to be on the field talking trash to players? Also poorly handled by the officials methinks.

[Zontar]

Dwight Anderson called. Will try again later.

[Mike]

On ‎01‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 0:47 AM, iso_55 said:

Pac Man Jones almost signed here. What a fool. 

He did sign here, We ended up not wanting him because pretty much immediately after signing, he went online and streamed himself from his hotel room talking about how he was going to play receiver, DB and return kicks and average 37 touchdowns a game.

[mbrg]

Fans hucking garbage at players while they're carted off the field?  Glad they found a way to lose.

[Jpan85]

I guess they forgot they don't live in Cleveland 

 

[Westy Sucks]

I wasn't surprised at all when this was happening.  I wonder what Pacman said to get the flag.  It didn't look like he hit anyone.  It just looked like he was saying something back to Joey Porter (Pitt LB coach)

Burfict on the other hand...yikes...he's getting suspended for that hit on Antonio Brown.

[JuranBoldenRules]

The NFL (and CFL) really need to add the ability to review personal fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties in-game.  

 

They handle the Shazier spear correctly and keep the Steelers coaches off the field and they avoid that embarrassing mess that reflects poorly on the entire sport.

[bearpants]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

The NFL (and CFL) really need to add the ability to review personal fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties in-game.  

 

They handle the Shazier spear correctly and keep the Steelers coaches off the field and they avoid that embarrassing mess that reflects poorly on the entire sport.

I understand that the rule states that coaches (other than HC) cannot be on the field... but there were mitigating circumstances... how often do you see the entire team and all coaches on the field when a player suffers a serious injury... that being said, I do agree the refs should have removed Porter from that scenario... but ultimately it's on Pacman for using his mouth before his brain, like usual...

[iso_55]

Refs lost control of that game. Some guys should have been thrown out earlier in the game. That probably would have taken care of things early but didn't. Today, Marvin Lewis was defending both Burfict & Jones publicly. The only way he can do that is if he knows the owner or GM aren't firing him. Amazing Lewis can say the things he did & still stay head coach. 

[BomberBall]

20 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

The NFL (and CFL) really need to add the ability to review personal fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties in-game.  

 

They handle the Shazier spear correctly and keep the Steelers coaches off the field and they avoid that embarrassing mess that reflects poorly on the entire sport.

The Shazier hit was handled correctly; except for the part where they whistled the play dead.  The ball came out and should have been a TD for the Steelers.

[JuranBoldenRules]

4 hours ago, BomberBall said:

The Shazier hit was handled correctly; except for the part where they whistled the play dead.  The ball came out and should have been a TD for the Steelers.

Except that it's a personal foul for spearing and targeting.  You can't lead with the crown of your helmet as a tackler and particularly when you are hitting high.  Rule exists on both sides of the border but is not applied often enough.  Really it's to protect everyone because the tackler is putting himself in danger of neck, headand spinal injuries too.

 

 

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line).

 

[BomberBall]

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Except that it's a personal foul for spearing and targeting.  You can't lead with the crown of your helmet as a tackler and particularly when you are hitting high.  Rule exists on both sides of the border but is not applied often enough.  Really it's to protect everyone because the tackler is putting himself in danger of neck, headand spinal injuries too.

 

 

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line).

 

I don't believe he did lead with the crown of his helmet.  Did he make helmet to helmet contact?  Yes, but there is no way it was targeting, when Bernard was turning and lowering his head as Shazier is committing to the hit.

Former head of officials and other officials agree, there was no foul on the play.

[JuranBoldenRules]

47 minutes ago, BomberBall said:

I don't believe he did lead with the crown of his helmet.  Did he make helmet to helmet contact?  Yes, but there is no way it was targeting, when Bernard was turning and lowering his head as Shazier is committing to the hit.

Former head of officials and other officials agree, there was no foul on the play.

Crown of his helmet is the first point of contact with Bernard's face mask.  Shazier is looking at turf as he launches into the hit.  It's a textbook spear.

[iso_55]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Crown of his helmet is the first point of contact with Bernard's face mask.  Shazier is looking at turf as he launches into the hit.  It's a textbook spear.

 

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Crown of his helmet is the first point of contact with Bernard's face mask.  Shazier is looking at turf as he launches into the hit.  It's a textbook spear.

It sure was & never called by the officials which was brutal. That just made things even worse. Inconsistent officiating was the real problem Saturday night. Things got way out of hand & there were no ejections. If the NFL wanted to make a statement to these teams they failed miserably.