The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Goalie said: But why? Because hes 6 6 and saw was Stanley? I think some people tend to think Jets draft big guys.. They have this phony reputation of being a big mean team... They arent tho. They are fast and skilled. Im not sure why this is bothering your or what you think the connection is between Hague and Logan. There is no conspiracy. I mentioned Hague first because I saw twitter chatter about him. Its always possible the Jets dislike a player for being big but I doubt it. Here was a player who was in that first round chatter. A D man. And yes, he had size, why not? Also from Kitchener and the talk was his improvement curve was more recent. As someone else said, maybe "off the board" for some teams but possessed some thing the Jets seem to like. No conspiracy here. Liked the player, speculated about a big bodied D man with upside. As it was the Jets drafted a big bodied D man with upside anyway. Just not Hague.
Floyd Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Jets drafting style has changed a bit since Hillier took over - last two drafts, Jets have been more focused on giant slower defencemen who are 'puck movers' not scorers... I would say that Hillier allows more 'wild card' picks by guys really pushing for a player - i.e. the Swedish mystery goaltender this year
Goalie Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Jets drafting style has changed a bit since Hillier took over - last two drafts, Jets have been more focused on giant slower defencemen who are 'puck movers' not scorers... I would say that Hillier allows more 'wild card' picks by guys really pushing for a player - i.e. the Swedish mystery goaltender this year The scout who was high on poolman copp foley and others was high on samberg and kovacevic. Hillier is just in charge. All our scouts have a say. The Unknown Poster 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/lemieux-looking-to-be-a-lean-mean-agitation-machine-430972893.html The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/lemieux-looking-to-be-a-lean-mean-agitation-machine-430972893.html Nice read. Lemieux trained lighter to add quickness and speed. Credit Dale with helping him see the need for change (can we just hire Dale already). Lemieux is very confident. Hope he takes a job this year. blue_gold_84 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Nice read. Lemieux trained lighter to add quickness and speed. Credit Dale with helping him see the need for change (can we just hire Dale already). Lemieux is very confident. Hope he takes a job this year. With Peluso/Thorburn gone it looks like he'll be the angry baker's dozen.
Goalie Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 15 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: With Peluso/Thorburn gone it looks like he'll be the angry baker's dozen. Yeah... Hes more **** disturbor than fighter.
JCon Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 15 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: With Peluso/Thorburn gone it looks like he'll be the angry baker's dozen. Thorburn is only 3 days from being re-signed. Atomic and The Unknown Poster 2
The Unknown Poster Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, JCon said: Thorburn is only 3 days from being re-signed. Probably. Hopefully one of those feel-good sign & retire deals. blue_gold_84 and JCon 2
JCon Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: Probably. Hopefully one of those feel-good sign & retire deals. Retire... yeah, sure.
Noeller Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Chris Motherf***in' Scoreburn is a beauty and you just know everyone in the room loves him. Great glue guy...massively underrated. kelownabomberfan 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, JCon said: Retire... yeah, sure. Someone has to captain VGK.
Goalie Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Only way Thor signs is to be a vet leader for the Moose. Hes just not an nhl player anymore but would be great for the young moose. The Unknown Poster and JCon 2
Goalie Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 52 minutes ago, Noeller said: Chris Motherf***in' Scoreburn is a beauty and you just know everyone in the room loves him. Great glue guy...massively underrated. Hasnt been good for 2 seasons now. Prior to that was fine but last 2 seasons he was just a shell of his former self.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, Goalie said: Hasnt been good for 2 seasons now. Prior to that was fine but last 2 seasons he was just a shell of his former self. I thought he "fought" for his job last year.
Goalie Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: I thought he "fought" for his job last year. He barely fought at all and when he did... It was those... Kind of scripted fights they want to get rid of and he lost more than he won. I like his attitude and his character but he shouldnt be on the Jets roster in any way. Perfect captain for the Moose. Him and Stu on the Moose would be great for the kids. The Unknown Poster 1
JCon Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Goalie said: Only way Thor signs is to be a vet leader for the Moose. Hes just not an nhl player anymore but would be great for the young moose. What scares me about Thorburn on the Moose is all the 'fighters' going after him to make a name for themselves. If he can go, just play and not have to fight every chump, then I'm happy. kelownabomberfan 1
Floyd Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 15 hours ago, Goalie said: He barely fought at all and when he did... It was those... Kind of scripted fights they want to get rid of and he lost more than he won. I like his attitude and his character but he shouldnt be on the Jets roster in any way. Perfect captain for the Moose. Him and Stu on the Moose would be great for the kids. Did you miss the season or something? Thorburn was like top five fighters in the NHL last year Noeller and FrostyWinnipeg 2
Jimmy Pop Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Floyd said: Did you miss the season or something? Thorburn was like top five fighters in the NHL last year Highlights of Thorburn's best fight. Disregard the different color jerseys. The Unknown Poster and Goalie 2
Goalie Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Jimmy Pop said: Highlights of Thorburn's best fight. Disregard the different color jerseys. 90 percent of his fights last year.
Floyd Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Goalie said: 90 percent of his fights last year. And there were a lot. Atomic and FrostyWinnipeg 2
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Floyd said: And there were a lot. Which made it one of his best seasons here if you like that stuff.
The Unknown Poster Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/06/29/mooses-niku-provides-depth-on-back-end Sami Niku is ready for the next chapter. After spending parts of the past three seasons playing in the top men's league in Finland, the smooth-skating defenceman signed his entry-level contract with the Winnipeg Jets and is poised to suit up for the Manitoba Moose in the American Hockey League. “My own season went pretty well and that's why I'm here,” said Niku, who was chosen in the seventh round, 198th overall, by the Jets in the 2015 NHL Draft. “I'm really excited. My dream of playing in the NHL is now one step closer.” Niku, who turns 21 in October, is coming off a strong season with JYP in the Liiga, where he produced five goals and 27 points in 59 games and added a goal and six points in 15 playoff contests. “Defending, strength and my shot,” Niku said when asked what parts of his game developed most last season. Having played professionally back in his home country should help Niku as he makes the transition to the North American game, though he admits he still needs to work on his defensive-zone play. Niku's skating ability is evident at first glance and that's something that always came naturally to him. “I don't know why,” said Niku. At 6-foot-1 and 168 pounds, Niku has proven to be quite shifty on the ice. “I like his agility — he's got deception in the way that he moves,” said Moose head coach Pascal Vincent, who will oversee Niku's development this season. “He's making you believe he's going to go one way and he goes the other way. He needs a good summer to get stronger and faster.” “He's a very smart player,” added Jets coordinator of player development Jimmy Roy. “He can recognize how the play is developing before it happens. He's going to be a good addition to the organization.” BRAGGING RIGHTS ON THE LINE After fitness testing and three days of systems and skill work, the prospects at Jets development camp are going up for the on-ice finale. Friday's scrimmage is set to get underway at Bell MTS Iceplex at 10:30 a.m. and is open to the public. “It's going to be fun — it's what you're excited for during the whole week pretty much,” said Jets defenceman prospect Jacob Cederholm. “To get things going and see what level you're at.” NOTHING NEW ON TROUBA In addition to free agency, July 1 marks the first day players heading into the final year of their current contracts can announce an extension. The Jets signed a four-year extension with Mathieu Perreault last summer that kicks in this season and there's naturally plenty of discussion about whether centre Bryan Little or defenceman Jacob Trouba could do the same. “That hasn't necessarily been our focus yet,” Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff said on Thursday at the annual development camp. “It has been more so on the acquisition side for the immediate roster.” Little has said publicly that he'd like to extend his stay with the Jets and it wouldn't be a surprise to see him sign a new deal. Trouba was given top-pairing minutes last season after missing the start of the campaign with a contract stalemate and trade request, but it's far more likely he'll play out his bridge contract before looking at an extension. Trouba posted a career-high 33 points last season while averaging just under 25 minutes of ice time per game. But since he's looking to be paid like a top blueliner in his next deal, it likely makes more sense for him to put up even bigger offensive numbers before signing on the dotted line. INJURY UPDATES The Jets had a lengthy list of players to go under the knife at the end of the season or were dealing with health concerns and Cheveldayoff provided a quick update on Thursday. Defenceman Tyler Myers, who was limited to 11 games last season because of lower-body issues, is progressing. “When you have the summer, you can slow down some things to allow for more of a healing process, as opposed to pushing,” said Cheveldayoff. “He's not at that pushing stage just yet, so to speak.” Fellow blue-liner Toby Enstrom was cleared for his concussion, but is working his way back from the knee injury that required additional attention. Cheveldayoff said he's expecting both Myers and Enstrom to be ready to be full participants for training camp this fall. REACTION TO HELLEBUYCK Earlier this spring, it was reported by Elliotte Friedman in his 30 Thoughts column that Jets goalie Connor Hellebuyck was going to do some work this summer with sports performance coach Adam Francilia at the NET360 goaltending clinic in Kelowna. Other goalies who work with Francilia include Devan Dubnyk of the Minnesota Wild and Morweena product James Reimer of the Florida Panthers. Cheveldayoff was asked for his reaction to the news Hellebuyck was trying to take his game to another level. “We expect all our players to do their utmost best to improve themselves year over year,” said Cheveldayoff. “The summer is the time that every player is challenged with becoming a better player in their own respective right. The fact a player is doing something on his own is not surprising.” BERDIN HEADING BACK TO USHL Jets goalie prospect Mikhail Berdin is a notable absentee at development camp, but that's because he's coming off shoulder surgery. Berdin, chosen in the sixth round (157th overall) of the 2016 NHL Draft, had a strong season in the USHL (14-12-3, 2.73 goals-against average and .925 save %) and will be back with the Sioux Falls Stampede. kwiebe@postmedia.com
Floyd Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: INJURY UPDATES The Jets had a lengthy list of players to go under the knife at the end of the season or were dealing with health concerns and Cheveldayoff provided a quick update on Thursday. Defenceman Tyler Myers, who was limited to 11 games last season because of lower-body issues, is progressing. “When you have the summer, you can slow down some things to allow for more of a healing process, as opposed to pushing,” said Cheveldayoff. “He's not at that pushing stage just yet, so to speak.” Fellow blue-liner Toby Enstrom was cleared for his concussion, but is working his way back from the knee injury that required additional attention. Cheveldayoff said he's expecting both Myers and Enstrom to be ready to be full participants for training camp this fall. That's a bit scary... shut down at the end of 2015-16 for minor knee surgery (?) - now still recovering... Enstrom now concussed and knee injury - but we're very excited that we prevented Vegas from taking him Lots of question marks on this D right now
Atomic Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Floyd said: That's a bit scary... shut down at the end of 2015-16 for minor knee surgery (?) - now still recovering... Enstrom now concussed and knee injury - but we're very excited that we prevented Vegas from taking him Lots of question marks on this D right now I think you might be getting a little mixed up when it comes to Myers' injury history.
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