Goalie Posted September 13, 2017 Report Posted September 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: They said Stanley was heading into last year of junior. Will Jets push him to college for more aging? Doubt it. Hes probably moose or echl bound next year.
Noeller Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 I always love it when people make these big, definitive statements. I have no idea where Stanley's going to end up, in terms of ceiling, and I'm okay with that.....I do know that D take a lot longer to develop than any other position. SPuDS and BomberFan 2
SPuDS Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Noeller said: I always love it when people make these big, definitive statements. I have no idea where Stanley's going to end up, in terms of ceiling, and I'm okay with that.....I do know that D take a lot longer to develop than any other position. exactly. He has so many detractors already calling him a bust, a wasted pick, etc etc.. the kids 19. he didn't ask to be drafted where he was. Obviously someone saw something in him that leads them to believe he has a higher ceiling then people are giving him credit for. I have no issue giving him 4-5 years of seasoning in the ECHL or wherever they want him to develop. If he plateaus during that time or shows that he doesn't have it.. so be it.. but to start in on him already? makes no sense to me. hes a worthwhile gamble.
The Unknown Poster Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 It wasnt long ago that some people thought Morrissey was a bust... sweep the leg and SPuDS 2
SPuDS Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: It wasnt long ago that some people thought Morrissey was a bust... very good call.. I remember the calls for him to be demoted, cut or traded because he was no good. People get so hung up on players slow development these days. Its just the nature of the beast with players in Hockey. Its quite the step up and takes a bit to figure it out.
Jimmy Pop Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: It wasnt long ago that some people thought Morrissey was a bust... Hell, I'll eat a small portion of crow here. After preseason last year I didn't think he was ready. Proved me wrong and then some.....though to be fair, I don't know anyone who expected him to be that solid, that quickly. Edited September 14, 2017 by Jimmy Pop . SPuDS, blue_gold_84 and FrostyWinnipeg 3
Goalie Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 Comparing Morrissey to Stanley is ridiculous. Morrissey has more skill in 1 hand than Stanley does his entire body. I know its hard for ppl to believe but... Stanley was a bad pick. Hes years... Years... Yearrrs away. BomberFan 1
Brandon Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Goalie said: Comparing Morrissey to Stanley is ridiculous. Morrissey has more skill in 1 hand than Stanley does his entire body. I know its hard for ppl to believe but... Stanley was a bad pick. Hes years... Years... Yearrrs away. And you do realize that the Jets are completely ok with the fact that he is years away and have said this on many occasions. SPuDS, blue_gold_84 and BomberFan 1 2
The Unknown Poster Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Goalie said: Comparing Morrissey to Stanley is ridiculous. Morrissey has more skill in 1 hand than Stanley does his entire body. I know its hard for ppl to believe but... Stanley was a bad pick. Hes years... Years... Yearrrs away. No one is comparing the players. Just comparing the silly histeria of writing off a player this early. LOL SPuDS 1
The Unknown Poster Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Brandon said: And you do realize that the Jets are completely ok with the fact that he is years away and have said this on many occasions. Yeah it's weird. Like whatever he is today is all he is? Jets took him right around where he was forecast to be taken. Jets liked him and wanted him. Down the road we can decide if that was good or not. But he would not have been there much longer. Plus jets already had a pretty decent pick in the first round so could afford to gamble a bit more with this pick. It was not an off the board pick at all. And it sounds like the player is exactly what he was scouted to be. Big with low offensive skills and "vision" issues. Has improved mobility which is good. Now he will either learn and develop or not. SPuDS 1
Brandon Posted September 14, 2017 Report Posted September 14, 2017 Not to mention Chevy's track record of 1st round picks has been fantastic BomberFan 1
Atomic Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 Not sure where all the Stanley hate comes from, if its from the stats crowd or what? When I watch him play he is a dominant defenceman. He might spend some time with the Moose next year but he'll be on the Jets very soon. ECHL? Lol! He won't play a single game in the ECHL. The Unknown Poster, Brandon Blue&Gold and JCon 3
The Unknown Poster Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, Atomic said: Not sure where all the Stanley hate comes from, if its from the stats crowd or what? When I watch him play he is a dominant defenceman. He might spend some time with the Moose next year but he'll be on the Jets very soon. ECHL? Lol! He won't play a single game in the ECHL. I think people get caught up in offensive numbers. If Stanley plays a physical game, is responsible in his own end and never scores a goal? So what. Its that pass out of the zone you want him to be able to make. And thats the criticism I've seen from scouts is that he has to make quicker decisions, but has improved on the "first pass" aspect. Has to keep getting better to play every day in the NHL though. But his size and mobility is definitely something worth spending time developing. SPuDS 1
sweep the leg Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 4:39 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said: They said Stanley was heading into last year of junior. Will Jets push him to college for more aging? Can't do that. NCAA considers the CHL to be a professional league, so those players are ineligible.
sweep the leg Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 I'm a little worried about Stanley, but I was worried about Scheifele & Morrissey too, so I'll trust Chevy and his scouts until proven wrong. BomberFan and Jimmy Pop 2
The Unknown Poster Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: Can't do that. NCAA considers the CHL to be a professional league, so those players are ineligible. Yeah, he will play one more year of junior and then be Moose-bound.
Atomic Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 39 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I think people get caught up in offensive numbers. If Stanley plays a physical game, is responsible in his own end and never scores a goal? So what. Its that pass out of the zone you want him to be able to make. And thats the criticism I've seen from scouts is that he has to make quicker decisions, but has improved on the "first pass" aspect. Has to keep getting better to play every day in the NHL though. But his size and mobility is definitely something worth spending time developing. He was averaging .5 points per game last season before getting injured. Fine numbers for a guy who isn't necessarily an "offensive" defenceman. He's got a cannon from the point and he plays an aggressive big-man style game. I expect his numbers will increase this year as well. There's nothing to be worried about. He will be an NHL defenceman. Probably not a top-pairing guy any time soon but he'll be a 3rd-pairing guy for the Jets within 2 years and top-4 within 5 years. Just has to keep working on his footwork. And that will come in time. Being 6'8" at 18 years old isn't easy. The usual criticism comes from non-athlete stats guys and older guys who had a taste of junior hockey who now think they're experts but I don't take that very seriously. The Unknown Poster, Brandon, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 3 1
sweep the leg Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Atomic said: The usual criticism comes from non-athlete stats guys and older guys who had a taste of junior hockey who now think they're experts but I don't take that very seriously. It's like you know me or something... SPuDS 1
Floyd Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 Lots of debate over a guy that really none of us have seen play... I'll wait until he cracks the Moose' elite squad of Dmen to judge... The Unknown Poster and SPuDS 2
Atomic Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, sweep the leg said: It's like you know me or something... I just try to offend as many people as possible and see who wants to dance Mark F and FrostyWinnipeg 2
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 15, 2017 Report Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Atomic said: I just try to offend as many people as possible and see who wants to dance
Jimmy Pop Posted September 18, 2017 Report Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 1:22 PM, Atomic said: I just try to offend as many people as possible and see who wants to dance
kelownabomberfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Posted September 19, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 11:22 AM, Atomic said: I just try to offend as many people as possible and see who wants to dance I watched Stanley last year at the Young Stars tournament in Penticton and he was pretty brutal. I didn't bother going this year. That being said, I watched Tyler Myers here in Kelowna look like Bambi out there on the ice with the Rockets and he's turned out pretty well. So I will reserve judgement for another year.
Atomic Posted September 29, 2017 Report Posted September 29, 2017 Big night for Stanley in his first game of the season... 1g, 1a, first star. http://windsorstar.com/sports/hockey/stanley-returns-with-goal-and-assist-to-lead-rangers-past-spitfires The Unknown Poster and SPuDS 1 1
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