The Unknown Poster Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) No points for Matthews tonight and he was -1. Matthews on pace for: 39 goals, 69points in 82 games Laine: 40 goals, 74 points in 74 games Think that gets him the Calder? Edited March 8, 2017 by The Unknown Poster
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: No points for Matthews tonight and he was -1. Matthews on pace for: 39 goals, 69points in 82 games Laine: 40 goals, 74 points in 74 games Think that gets him the Calder? It does when the rookies he plays with are having good seasons as well.
Jimmy Pop Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 7:33 AM, The Unknown Poster said: Good look at Tucker Poolman That is a great write-up, very informative. This piece in particular is encouraging to me. Our bottom pair guys can't do this to save their lives, 'cept for maybe Postma. Quote One of the most underrated abilities in Poolman’s game is his vision and passing ability when skating the puck out of his own zone. He’s terrific at keeping his head up, surveying the play and finding or creating a pass lane to move the puck through the neutral zone. The Unknown Poster 1
JCon Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 8 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: It does when the rookies he plays with are having good seasons as well. Playing against the opponents third and fourth lines. IC Khari 1
The Unknown Poster Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, JCon said: Playing against the opponents third and fourth lines. Thats the thing right? The argument is oh Matthews is way better because he's playing on the third line. Well...why is he playing on the third line if he's so good? its not like the Leafs are Pittsburgh. So it works both ways. To me the obvious thing is that Laine has more goals, more points, better plus/minus and less games. Im not sure there is enough "gut feelings" to say Matthews has had the better rookie season, which is what the Calder is about. Its not about who has the best next decade. If it ended today, Laine is the Rookie of the Year. But who knows what happens over the next 15 or so games. JCon 1
JCon Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Thats the thing right? The argument is oh Matthews is way better because he's playing on the third line. Well...why is he playing on the third line if he's so good? its not like the Leafs are Pittsburgh. So it works both ways. To me the obvious thing is that Laine has more goals, more points, better plus/minus and less games. Im not sure there is enough "gut feelings" to say Matthews has had the better rookie season, which is what the Calder is about. Its not about who has the best next decade. If it ended today, Laine is the Rookie of the Year. But who knows what happens over the next 15 or so games. Lots of time left and Matthews is definitely deserving but so is Laine. People just keep pointing out that he's playing with rookies, so why not look at the match ups?!?! The Unknown Poster 1
Rich Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, JCon said: Lots of time left and Matthews is definitely deserving but so is Laine. People just keep pointing out that he's playing with rookies, so why not look at the match ups?!?! Seems to me a lot of the buzz about looking at who a player is playing with is coming from the Toronto media. When have you ever heard an argument like this before for rookie of the year? Truth is, unless the stats they put up are an absolute blowout, Toronto media will find any excuse to pump up / vote for Matthews over Laine. JCon 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 Another way to look at it. Matthews took worst team in league to playoffs.
Floyd Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Another way to look at it. Matthews took worst team in league to playoffs. That's a bit rich... Babcock is the only reason this team is close He just split up the rookies... guess we'll see if Matthews keeps scoring
Jimmy Pop Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 Well, no. If the Leafs make the playoffs, it's Babs who took them there. Matthews is a huge part, but equally so are Marner, Nylander, Reilly & Mr.Anderson. The only awards league's hand out where record should come into play is coach of the year and most VALUABLE player. As the ROY is a "most outstanding" award - team record means bupkis. <IMO anyways.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 10, 2017 Report Posted March 10, 2017 Exactly the type of player we need
The Unknown Poster Posted March 10, 2017 Report Posted March 10, 2017 Well there's an opening for Poolman with Toby likely finished. Hopefully this kid makes it too!
JCon Posted March 10, 2017 Report Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: Well there's an opening for Poolman with Toby likely finished. Hopefully this kid makes it too! Poolman plays on the right, no? And, even if he gets a couple of games with the Jets this year, he'll need a season or two in the AHL before he's ready to jump. If he's ever ready to jump!
kelownabomberfan Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Bring up Poolman and Green next year, and let our grizzled vets like Morrissey and Laine mentor them.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Watching Calgary last night I am thinking that's a sleeper team that could go far in the play-offs, especially with a hot goalie. Talk about players buying into a system. They were out-hustled the Jets all over the ice, even up 3-0. Never any quit.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 Matthews on pace for 38 goals and 67 points in 82 games laine on pace for 39 goals and 72 points in 74 games. Who gets your vote?
Floyd Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 11 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Matthews on pace for 38 goals and 67 points in 82 games laine on pace for 39 goals and 72 points in 74 games. Who gets your vote? Laine would win it hands down if Maurice kept him with Scheif and played him on the 1st PP unit...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 If it ended today Im voting Laine. More goals, more points, less games, better plus/minus. The less games really makes a difference. Even if they were tied, Laine gets the edge. Better season = Laine. Both pretty cold right now and Matthews can easily go on a tear, so could Laine. If Laine can score 40 (seems tough now) he'd be only the second 18 year old to ever do it. The first? Dale Hawerchuk. Would be fitting for him to be #2.
Floyd Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 Maurice will put him on the third line to help him learn the defensive game for the last ten... good in the long-term... get him some 'sand'
JCon Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Floyd said: Maurice will put him on the third line to help him learn the defensive game for the last ten... good in the long-term... get him some 'sand' Maybe the penalty kill? He should probably not dress him at all, so he can see the game from a different perspective. Floyd 1
Floyd Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, JCon said: Maybe the penalty kill? He should probably not dress him at all, so he can see the game from a different perspective. Could be the solution to our goalie problems... JCon 1
kelownabomberfan Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 5 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: If it ended today Im voting Laine. More goals, more points, less games, better plus/minus. The less games really makes a difference. Even if they were tied, Laine gets the edge. Better season = Laine. Both pretty cold right now and Matthews can easily go on a tear, so could Laine. If Laine can score 40 (seems tough now) he'd be only the second 18 year old to ever do it. The first? Dale Hawerchuk. Would be fitting for him to be #2. Laine should have scored on that play in OT last night where he deked three Predators out of their jock straps. Because he didn't score, Matthews has my vote.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 14, 2017 Report Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said: Laine should have scored on that play in OT last night where he deked three Predators out of their jock straps. Because he didn't score, Matthews has my vote. I thought something similar. Had he scored on that play, they would have etched his name on the trophy that night.
HardCoreBlue Posted March 16, 2017 Report Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/8/2017 at 10:36 AM, FrostyWinnipeg said: Another way to look at it. Matthews took worst team in league to playoffs. Aren't there yet. JCon 1
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