The Unknown Poster Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Floyd said: I think Glover is a great prospect but he hasn't shown any real offensive upside yet... looking more like a Chiarot type right now also think Kraskovsky has potential, really liked his game at WJC. Glover has improved his offensive game a bit by going from non-existent to barely there, but its a move in the right direction. I think Glover is still two years away at least. Poolman could be interesting...
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 38 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I have hopes for Poolman and Glover to at least come up and be on the Moose next year. I like their size, as opposed to Toby Dinklage. You must have loved Kyte.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ducky said: You must have loved Kyte. and Shawn Cronin too! Babs was my favorite though, still don't know how that trade for Neufeld ever got approved. Hartford really pooched us on that deal.
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Babych asked for the trade, what was Fergie to do? Neufeld was horrible and Peluso has WAY better hands than Neufeld ever did. If Babych had a mean streak, he would have been talked about in Norris conversations. Edited March 15, 2016 by Ducky
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 Just now, Ducky said: Babych asked for the trade, what was Fergie to do? Neufeld was horrible and Peluso has WAY better hands than Neufeld ever did. Babych asked to be traded to Hartford? That's not what I read. I read that Smith convinced Fergie to do it purely to sabotage him and take his GM job. That was what Fergie seemed to think, IIRC. It's been a long time, so my memory is a bit foggy, but I know Smith was the one who wanted Babych gone, for reasons unknown. Floyd 1
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 Babych asked for a trade, not specifically Hartford. His marriage was breaking up and his wife was seeing Donny Lalonde on the sly. He found out and asked for a trade....he was devastated.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 Jets Trade Babych for "Stone Hands" Neufeld November 22, 1985 Once thought to be the cornerstone of the franchise, Dave Babych is no longer a member of the Winnipeg Jets. Yesterday, Vice President and General Manager John Ferguson traded his once highly-coveted defenseman to the Hartford Whalers in exchange for Ray "Stone Hands" Neufeld. "It was a very difficult decision to make," said Ferguson. "It was something we felt we had to do, but it wasn't easy. We still think David Babych is going to have an outstanding career in the National Hockey League, but in order to get someone of Ray's ability, you've got to give something up, and today, we gave up David Babych." Coming to the Jets is St. Boniface native Ray Neufeld, bringing with him an established reputation for his lack of finish around the opponent's net and little else. "Ray is someone we've been after for a while now. Our scouts have spoken well of the young man, and how well he would fit in with our program, " added Ferguson. "Ray will give us added depth up front where we need it right now. We have plenty of mediocrity on our blue line, but we needed someone like Ray to bring our complement of forwards up to that level. Ray will fit right in and bring that type of mediocrity that we're looking for. We expected that, in order to give up someone of David Babych's caliber, the player we received will have be out of the league in three or four years and playing in some senior league, and we think we have that kind of player in Ray Neufeld." Babych was originally the second overall selection in the 1980 Entry Draft, but in recent times, had fallen out of favor with the organization and failed to live up to the hype and level of expectations that followed him to Winnipeg from the junior ranks."I'm kind of shocked right now," said Babych. "I wasn't aware that I was being shopped around, but I guess I was. It's a little unnerving, but that's business side of pro sports, you just have to deal with it." "I'm quite excited to be coming to Winnipeg," said Neufeld. "I spoke to Mr. Ferguson on the phone and he told me that they've been pursuing me for some time and was pleased that they will finally able to make a deal with the Whalers to bring me to Winnipeg. I know they thought highly of Dave Babych, so I know they must have wanted me. Of course you don't want to be traded, but at least you know the team that traded for you really wanted you. Hopefully my luck will change and I'll be able to hang on for a few more years in the league. I hope to be able to contribute to a solid third-place finish in the Smythe Division for the Jets. Mr. Ferguson told me that's what they're shooting for this year, and hopefully we can get there. Maybe we can even win a playoff game." Neufeld was originally selected by the Whalers in the fourth round of the 1979 Entry Draft and spent his first full season with the Whalers in 1982-1983. http://curtiswalker.com/jets/m_satire_neufeld.aspx
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 Dumping Fergie after 7 straight playoffs years doomed the club.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ducky said: Babych asked for a trade, not specifically Hartford. His marriage was breaking up and his wife was seeing Donny Lalonde on the sly. He found out and asked for a trade....he was devastated. weren't Babs and his bro married to some hot blonde twins? I remember them always doing commercials for Skinners wet and wild water slides.
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 KBF, If you can get your hands on Thunder and Lightning by Fergie, he talks about that trade a bit. It is a good read and has some behind the scenes stories.
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 They were married to the Buffy twins from Selkirk, MB...... Anyone that knew her, knew the marriage wouldn't last.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 45 minutes ago, Ducky said: KBF, If you can get your hands on Thunder and Lightning by Fergie, he talks about that trade a bit. It is a good read and has some behind the scenes stories. ok thanks for the tip - I'll look out for it at one of the 300 used book stores here in Kelowna.
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 46 minutes ago, Ducky said: They were married to the Buffy twins from Selkirk, MB...... Anyone that knew her, knew the marriage wouldn't last. Noeller 1
Jimmy Pop Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 Quote "Ray will give us added depth up front where we need it right now. We have plenty of mediocrity on our blue line, but we needed someone like Ray to bring our complement of forwards up to that level. Ray will fit right in and bring that type of mediocrity that we're looking for." Was this a more complimentary word in '85 - or was Sr Fergy just that candid?
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: ok thanks for the tip - I'll look out for it at one of the 300 used book stores here in Kelowna. ever hear of amazon.ca?
Jimmy Pop Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ducky said: ever hear of amazon.ca? Duh. We all read the book growing up... Ducky 1
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said: Was this a more complimentary word in '85 - or was Sr Fergy just that candid? I don't think that was the actual quote. Someone must have changed it. I read online that it was Abe Lincoln in 1846 who advised that you can't always believe everything you read on the internet. Jimmy Pop, The Unknown Poster and bearpants 3
kelownabomberfan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ducky said: ever hear of amazon.ca? pashaw. I'm from Manitoba. Only buy my books at used book stores. You can't haggle down the price of a used book from $3.25 to $2.00 on an internet site. Edited March 15, 2016 by kelownabomberfan rebusrankin 1
Ducky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 https://www.amazon.ca/Thunder-Lightning-Shirley-Fischler-Ferguson/dp/0139206469?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 3.59
Atomic Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 3 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: I don't think that was the actual quote. Someone must have changed it. I read online that it was Abe Lincoln in 1846 who advised that you can't always believe everything you read on the internet. That whole article is satirical, none of the quotes are real
kelownabomberfan Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 12 hours ago, Ducky said: https://www.amazon.ca/Thunder-Lightning-Shirley-Fischler-Ferguson/dp/0139206469?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 3.59 Highway robbery! Ducky 1
Jimmy Pop Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 12 hours ago, Atomic said: That whole article is satirical, none of the quotes are real And it had satire in the damn URL. Oy vey... I'll show myself out. Atomic 1
The Unknown Poster Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said: And it had satire in the damn URL. Oy vey... I'll show myself out. Wab Kinew understands. Pete Catan's Ghost 1
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