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[Jpan85]

Somebody rushed the stage during Brett’s speech tackled him then it looked like got lit up by few of the boys.

[The Unknown Poster]

38 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

Somebody rushed the stage during Brett’s speech tackled him then it looked like got lit up by few of the boys.

Just read that.  Geeeez. Moron. 

[Jpan85]

 

[Brandon]

What in the hell was that guy thinking?  He's lucky that he didn't get killed by a bunch of wannabe tough guys and a whole bunch of legit tough guys. 

I'm hoping the guy lost a lot of teeth from ruining a special moment like that.

[bigg jay]

He deserves everything he got.  The 1st guy in throwing punches at the douchebag was UFC fighter Travis Browne, followed by Davey Boy Smith JR.  Dash Wilder popped him good as they were walking out.

 

[Jpan85]

No flips just fists

[bigg jay]

From what I've read, it wasn't the best night for ROH/NJPW and their supercard of honor. A lot of fans are hoping it makes njpw reconsider working with AEW. 

They had Enzo & Cass jump the rails in an invasion angle.  Given what happened with Bret earlier in the night, it was really badly timed. 

Lots of empty seats that people are blaming on the Elite guys not being there. It was sold out so it was most likely resellers that really took a loss.

[The Unknown Poster]

10 hours ago, bigg jay said:

From what I've read, it wasn't the best night for ROH/NJPW and their supercard of honor. A lot of fans are hoping it makes njpw reconsider working with AEW. 

They had Enzo & Cass jump the rails in an invasion angle.  Given what happened with Bret earlier in the night, it was really badly timed. 

Lots of empty seats that people are blaming on the Elite guys not being there. It was sold out so it was most likely resellers that really took a loss.

Or well timed in the sense I saw many people thinking it was a shoot. 

But yes RoH has issues right now.  I did hear a rumour that they are negotiating a sale with wwe

[The Unknown Poster]

Hard to tell from video I saw but looks like Travis Browne was first guy in and was tuning the prick up. 

One of the revival dropped him too. 

 

[SpeedFlex27]

Thankfully the so called "fan" didn't have a weapon. Great job security for keeping him out of the ring...

Edited April 7, 2019 by SpeedFlex27

[bigg jay]

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Or well timed in the sense I saw many people thinking it was a shoot. 

But yes RoH has issues right now.  I did hear a rumour that they are negotiating a sale with wwe

Initially people thought that because a) Enzo has interupted shows before and b) they didn't really give it air time but any sense of a shoot went out the window when security didn't do much and then "escorted" them back out through the crowd.  We saw what a shoot run-in looked like earlier the same night and how it was handled.

[The Unknown Poster]

Well. That was way too long. 

Bryan vs Kofi was amazing. 

Really enjoyed Joe squashing Rey. 

Hunter vs Dave paid off the story. 

Womens main was good with the right ending. 

It feels like Seth won the title about a month ago.  And what’s with them trying to pretend like Seth won for the first time?   Terrible.  Great way to start the show though.  

Unforgivable to lay angle down. 

Show was very long. 

[bigg jay]

Agreed, the length of the show was bad especially considering that there were a few matches that lasted less than 5 minutes.  I know it's Wrestlemania so they want to go big with the entrances and stuff but that was too much.  With so many bright spots last night, it's sad that my 1st thoughts are that it was way too long.

[Goalie]

Gonna echo the too long part. Thought the anthem to start was awful. The matches were all good tho with the women's wwe title and hhh vs dave match standing out the most to me. Thought Miz vs Shane was good also. Too long tho. 

No problem with Angle losing.. Hes just not good anymore. Not sure what they see in Corbin tho. Flair lost his retirement match also. Guess my only problem with Angle losing is.. Why Corbin. 

Edited April 8, 2019 by Goalie

[The Unknown Poster]

7 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Gonna echo the too long part. Thought the anthem to start was awful. The matches were all good tho with the women's wwe title and hhh vs dave match standing out the most to me. Thought Miz vs Shane was good also. Too long tho. 

No problem with Angle losing.. Hes just not good anymore. Not sure what they see in Corbin tho. Flair lost his retirement match also. Guess my only problem with Angle losing is.. Why Corbin. 

There is the idea that you go out on your back, sure.  And I guarantee Angle didnt have an issue with it.  Big Dave also...I bet he insisted on losing.  Flair is another one I'd have considered putting over on his way out but there was an angle involved there where HBK was basically an unwilling hitman for Vince.  

If Angle worked Gable...or Black or someone with the idea they hate to put him down, but they will because its the opportunity they've been waiting for, then sure.  But Corbin...he's getting good and being a **** but no reason whatsoever for him to beat Angle.

Also, like you, I liked most of the matches.  But Kofi/Bryan was light years ahead of everything.  I didnt even care about that match going in, outside of whether they'd actually put Kofi over.  By the end, I was sucked into the emotions.  Daniel Bryan is the best all around wrestler in WWE (work, promos, facials, mannerisms...everything).

[Goldkobra]

I would've preferred to see Angle work with Gable or Shelton Benjamin. Showcase the amateur style that made Angle famous,  but overall,  i enjoyed the match. No issues with Corbin. 

[The Unknown Poster]

Big Dave officially retires

And there are some rumours floating around the uncredible dirt sheets that the main event was a botch and was meant to go on several more minutes with Charlotte tapping out.

[bigg jay]

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Big Dave officially retires

And there are some rumours floating around the uncredible dirt sheets that the main event was a botch and was meant to go on several more minutes with Charlotte tapping out.

It looked like a bit of botch in that Ronda's shoulders clearly came off the mat during the 3 count but it seemed like that was the planned ending to the match.  The table spot finally took out Charlotte leaving the 2 others to finish it.  Becky counters a signture Ronda move to get the win. 

Either the pin was slightly botched or it was done to set up a future angle down the road if/when Ronda comes back.  I'd guess that's what they do now in either case.

 

[The Unknown Poster]

12 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

It looked like a bit of botch in that Ronda's shoulders clearly came off the mat during the 3 count but it seemed like that was the planned ending to the match.  The table spot finally took out Charlotte leaving the 2 others to finish it.  Becky counters a signture Ronda move to get the win. 

Either the pin was slightly botched or it was done to set up a future angle down the road if/when Ronda comes back.  I'd guess that's what they do now in either case.

 

Yes, a slight botch in that the shoulders were meant to be down.  But the rumor circulating among the wannabe Meltzer's is that a "WWE source" is saying Becky was supposed to tap out Charlotte several minutes later.  That story sounds like something Heyman would leak to work the dirt sheets.  But it seemed pretty clear that was the finish.

And it was a bad finish.  The match wasnt as good as it should have been though it was still good.  

[The Unknown Poster]

Another newsbyte sort of lost over the weekend is Jim Ross talking about AEW's TV and saying it will be live, two hours in prime-time weekly.  Reports are its not officially signed yet so no concrete details but that its a non-network channel that everyone gets with important streaming components (important, I gather, in the sense the channel sees AEW as valuable to their streaming business).

Money is still on TNT/TBS.   Meltzer is saying that the streaming aspect is so important that by Double or Nothing, if they havent announced it, it would likely become obvious.  I assume the idea is that the channel wants to stream the PPV shows.

AEW also close to an international TV deal that is said to be pretty lucrative.

In New Japan news, Okada regained the IWGP title and Kota won the IC title.  Kota is going to beat Okada for the title eventually, I'd wager.

A lot of people feeling the ROH/New Japan show painted ROH is a poor light.  The New Japan matches were excellent but consensus seems to be ROH didnt hold up their end of the deal.  Signing Enzo & Cass might have made people think less of it than it deserved though.

[ediger]

Hey! One more for waaaay too long. Gimme a rock solid 4 hours of your best not a plodding 8-9 hours of whatever you have. Liked Kofi/Bryan and took off with 3 matches left (I'll watch'em later). Wasn't a ton else that really grabbed me. The Shane/Miz match was entirely built around one spot that looked pretty bad on TV. I hate it when they show the guys hitting the crash mat. I thought some of the tag matches were alright but when you have four teams in there the pacing gets a little crazy.

Overall, I went home thinking "Man, that was long" not "holy ****, that was great". Don't think that's the sort of impression they want to leave.

[The Unknown Poster]

It was almost perfect if it ended with Kofi/Bryan.  That would have been a solid Night One.  Problem is, Night Two took place immediately.

[The Unknown Poster]

Some updates from Meltzer

Ronda broke her hand pretty badly during the match.  She was scheduled for RAW tonight as her last appearance for awhile.

Brock went home already and is not scheduled.  Nothing on the books for him.  He's linked to an Aug 17th fight with Cormier.

Brock vs Seth going on first was a last minute decision after the show had already begun.

AJ is hurt too, not believed to be serious but he was seen at the airport moving gingerly and flying home.

Edited April 8, 2019 by The Unknown Poster

[bigg jay]

DM also debunked the rumors that the main event was cut short:

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There was no certainty of what her role would be going forward but the finish of her title loss, with the idea Becky Lynch pinned her with a quick cradle with some controversy in a three-way match that also involved Charlotte Flair, was done to keep the story alive for a possible return.

 

[SpeedFlex27]

10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Big Dave officially retires

And there are some rumours floating around the uncredible dirt sheets that the main event was a botch and was meant to go on several more minutes with Charlotte tapping out.

Yeah, read that on social media as well. Is Rousey out?