Wrestling

[Goalie]

I actually disagree that SmackDown is better. It's the same. It's just an hour shorter 

[bigg jay]

25 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I actually disagree that SmackDown is better. It's the same. It's just an hour shorter 

Well sometimes less is more... for example: less Stephanie would be a good thing for Raw.

[The Unknown Poster]

There's a difference between personal photos being stolen and those photos including ejaculating on the wwe belt. 

They won't like that one. And the fact it could be the same belt other girls use, kiss, pose with children is going to cause a ton of heat for Paige. 

Having sex shouldn't get you fired. Blowing your load on your companies corporate logo and property probably will. 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

http://nerdist.com/wwes-new-web-series-is-a-spot-on-parody-of-80s-local-wrestling/

[Goalie]

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 6:08 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

There's a difference between personal photos being stolen and those photos including ejaculating on the wwe belt. 

They won't like that one. And the fact it could be the same belt other girls use, kiss, pose with children is going to cause a ton of heat for Paige. 

Having sex shouldn't get you fired. Blowing your load on your companies corporate logo and property probably will. 

It was the nxt women's belt tho. 

[Goalie]

10 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

http://nerdist.com/wwes-new-web-series-is-a-spot-on-parody-of-80s-local-wrestling/

I enjoyed it. It's good so far 

[The Unknown Poster]

9 hours ago, Goalie said:

It was the nxt women's belt tho. 

How does that change things?  Still a WWE brand.  There is also a pic floating around of both the WWE Divas & NXT women's belt covered in "DNA".  Paige's face isnt in this one so unsubstantiated but she did hold both briefly.

I suspect WWE does nothing in the short term and will release Paige down the road.

[Mike]

Summer Rae just had leaks come out too apparently.

[The Unknown Poster]

12 minutes ago, Mike said:

Summer Rae just had leaks come out too apparently.

The one I saw seems like her as the ones that show her face seem to indicate the same cell phone cover and bathroom.  But the nude doesnt show her face.   Kaitlyn supposedly out there too.  No one is quite sure if these are related to the Paige hack (as in, Paige having Summer's nudes for some reason).

Apparently there is a big underground trading ring for celebrity photos/video and often times its one of them that leaks or gets hacked when you see a big dump of random celebs.

The important lesson is, just because you delete it from your phone doesnt mean its deleted from your iCloud. 

[sweep the leg]

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The one I saw seems like her as the ones that show her face seem to indicate the same cell phone cover and bathroom.  But the nude doesnt show her face.   Kaitlyn supposedly out there too.  No one is quite sure if these are related to the Paige hack (as in, Paige having Summer's nudes for some reason).

Apparently there is a big underground trading ring for celebrity photos/video and often times its one of them that leaks or gets hacked when you see a big dump of random celebs.

The important lesson is, just because you delete it from your phone doesnt mean its deleted from your iCloud. 

No reservations about checking out their stolen personal pictures?

[The Unknown Poster]

16 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

No reservations about checking out their stolen personal pictures?

Ofcourse.  But some of the wrestling forums and news sites I peruse had them posted and the Summer one was messaged to me by someone else.  I didnt immediately run from the room.  I think its terrible when this happens to celebrities.  There is a blame the victim mentality that I dont subscribe to.  But if you show me a photo of a beautiful woman, Im likely to look.  Call it a weakness.

[Taynted_Fayth]

2 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

No reservations about checking out their stolen personal pictures?

Honestly,  if your gonna take pics of yourself naked, or vids of yourself having sex, you run the risk of it being out there one day.  Totally different then say the Hulk Hogan video which appears to have been done without knowledge (hidden cam). If I had a nickel for every time my junk got online, i'd have zero cents cuz I don't record my private ****. easy enough

Edited March 20, 2017 by Taynted_Fayth

[The Unknown Poster]

5 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

Honestly,  if your gonna take pics of yourself naked, or vids of yourself having sex, you run the risk of it being out there one day.  Totally different then say the Hulk Hogan video which appears to have been done without knowledge (hidden cam). If I had a nickel for every time my junk got online, i'd have zero cents cuz I don't record my private ****. easy enough

Yeah.  But...Im 100% on the side of these celebrities are victimized when their information is stolen.  Its like if someone steals your identity and racks up credit cards, ruins your credit etc.  Is it your fault for having your information "out there"?  Most of us more or less *have* to have information out there and I guess the argument is we dont have to send pics/video of ourselves.

But the celebrities are victims.  Im more in the camp of "so what" when I see this stuff.  Like, totally on the side of feeling bad and hoping the culprit is caught and convcited but when you see headlines that lambaste the celebrity for having a nude pic or having sex its like, ummmm how is that different from the majority of other human beings?  We all have sex.  Many many of us have sent or received pics/video from gf (or bf's).  No one cares about us so we dont worry.

If someone like Amanda Seyfried, who seems like a nice person (I dont know her) is hurt by this by not getting roles or getting offered less money due to a "damaged" image, that really sucks.  It would seem, in Hollywood, its no big deal so probably wont hurt.  But still...

But the **** shaming of people doing what everyone does is pretty pathetic.

[Taynted_Fayth]

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yeah.  But...Im 100% on the side of these celebrities are victimized when their information is stolen.  Its like if someone steals your identity and racks up credit cards, ruins your credit etc.  Is it your fault for having your information "out there"?  Most of us more or less *have* to have information out there and I guess the argument is we dont have to send pics/video of ourselves.

But the celebrities are victims.  Im more in the camp of "so what" when I see this stuff.  Like, totally on the side of feeling bad and hoping the culprit is caught and convcited but when you see headlines that lambaste the celebrity for having a nude pic or having sex its like, ummmm how is that different from the majority of other human beings?  We all have sex.  Many many of us have sent or received pics/video from gf (or bf's).  No one cares about us so we dont worry.

If someone like Amanda Seyfried, who seems like a nice person (I dont know her) is hurt by this by not getting roles or getting offered less money due to a "damaged" image, that really sucks.  It would seem, in Hollywood, its no big deal so probably wont hurt.  But still...

But the **** shaming of people doing what everyone does is pretty pathetic.

I'm not quick to give someone a victim label, unless these vids/pics were done without their knowledge.  IMO most times these are not only agreed upon before hand, but that celeb likely sees something coming their way like a decent cheque, or we would see lawsuits like the gawker one every few days/weeks, especially if, as you say, there is some kind of damage to their image.

We live in a world now where your FB posts could get you in hot water with your employer, so if your some kind of celeb and you're willingly taking pics of yourself naked, or making videos of you getting plowed, you have to know the risk, then wear that hat if the inevitable occurs and it's leaked. This has been going on for decades, and will keep on happening as long as people keep supplying the ammo

[The Unknown Poster]

4 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I'm not quick to give someone a victim label, unless these vids/pics were done without their knowledge.  IMO most times these are not only agreed upon before hand, but that celeb likely sees something coming their way like a decent cheque, or we would see lawsuits like the gawker one every few days/weeks, especially if, as you say, there is some kind of damage to their image.

We live in a world now where your FB posts could get you in hot water with your employer, so if your some kind of celeb and you're willingly taking pics of yourself naked, or making videos of you getting plowed, you have to know the risk, then wear that hat if the inevitable occurs and it's leaked. This has been going on for decades, and will keep on happening as long as people keep supplying the ammo

I have to disagree.  While a celebrity should take greater precautions because they are a target, I dont think a celebrity should have to live their life unable to be a normal person.  A multi camera sex session with two guys is probably a bad idea if you dont want it "leaked", for sure.  But a celebrity sending a pic to her husband and it getting hacked, I cant blame the victim.  They do what everyone does.  The only difference is no one would bother hacking us and if they did no one would care to see our pics.

[The Unknown Poster]

Paige's family is really a dysfunctional group.  Her father has released a statement that essentially says he's worried for her mental health and implies she might be suicidal. 

[Mike]

46 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I'm not quick to give someone a victim label, unless these vids/pics were done without their knowledge.  IMO most times these are not only agreed upon before hand, but that celeb likely sees something coming their way like a decent cheque, or we would see lawsuits like the gawker one every few days/weeks, especially if, as you say, there is some kind of damage to their image.

We live in a world now where your FB posts could get you in hot water with your employer, so if your some kind of celeb and you're willingly taking pics of yourself naked, or making videos of you getting plowed, you have to know the risk, then wear that hat if the inevitable occurs and it's leaked. This has been going on for decades, and will keep on happening as long as people keep supplying the ammo

Sorry, but that's a load of crap. Taking a private photo of yourself does not carry any illegality with it, so to say somebody shouldn't be able to do that in private is total nonsense. All because someone may violate their privacy in an illegal fashion?

Nah.

[bigg jay]

38 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I'm not quick to give someone a victim label, unless these vids/pics were done without their knowledge.  IMO most times these are not only agreed upon before hand, but that celeb likely sees something coming their way like a decent cheque, or we would see lawsuits like the gawker one every few days/weeks, especially if, as you say, there is some kind of damage to their image.

We live in a world now where your FB posts could get you in hot water with your employer, so if your some kind of celeb and you're willingly taking pics of yourself naked, or making videos of you getting plowed, you have to know the risk, then wear that hat if the inevitable occurs and it's leaked. This has been going on for decades, and will keep on happening as long as people keep supplying the ammo

LOL at people like Jennifer Lawrence or Emma Watson seeing a couple dollar signs and being ok with this.   Do you have any idea what kind of money these people make?  This isn't Sunny whoring herself out to various porn companies looking for her last big payday.  100% this is not premeditated or something they "allowed" to happen.  There are lawsuits/criminal cases, just maybe not as high profile as the gawker case, in most cases the celebs just want these things to go away.  The guys behind the last big celeb hacks got 18 & 9 months in prison respectively.

Would your opinion change if the pics/videos weren't on their phone, but safely kept in their house and someone stole them?  At what point do they become victims to you when they themselves did nothing wrong?

[bigg jay]

1 hour ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

Honestly,  if your gonna take pics of yourself naked, or vids of yourself having sex, you run the risk of it being out there one day.  Totally different then say the Hulk Hogan video which appears to have been done without knowledge (hidden cam). If I had a nickel for every time my junk got online, i'd have zero cents cuz I don't record my private ****. easy enough

Yes but nobody wants to see your junk... online or in person.  Supply & demand. 

[Taynted_Fayth]

7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

LOL at people like Jennifer Lawrence or Emma Watson seeing a couple dollar signs and being ok with this.   Do you have any idea what kind of money these people make?  This isn't Sunny whoring herself out to various porn companies looking for her last big payday.  100% this is not premeditated or something they "allowed" to happen.  There are lawsuits/criminal cases, just maybe not as high profile as the gawker case, in most cases the celebs just want these things to go away.  The guys behind the last big celeb hacks got 18 & 9 months in prison respectively.

Would your opinion change if the pics/videos weren't on their phone, but safely kept in their house and someone stole them?  At what point do they become victims to you when they themselves did nothing wrong?

I watched the Paige vids, 100% it was premeditated

[bigg jay]

So you're saying she made the video with the knowledge that her phone would get hacked and it would be shown to the world?

[Mike]

2 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I watched the Paige vids, 100% it was premeditated

I don't think you understood what he meant when he said premeditated.

[Taynted_Fayth]

8 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

So you're saying she made the video with the knowledge that her phone would get hacked and it would be shown to the world?

Yeah I think she did, they didn't strike me as home made for that special someone. I think she got paid but that's just my thought. I've had plenty of stuff sent my way over the years from chicks and it's much, much different 

I've also seen plenty of celebs who had candid shots taken of them from afar which I don't agree with, I've seen plenty of "made with my phone" homemade stuff too. What i watched of Paige was neither of those but certainly done by a 3rd party (at least 1 half of the vid) so I have my opinion of it,  and it's more a Sunny thing from a wrestler likely looking for extra $ while suspended vs a emma watson or JLaw getting hacked.

Edited March 20, 2017 by Taynted_Fayth

[The Unknown Poster]

There might be confusion in reaction after the fact.  People like Paris Hilton (and Chyna) made deals after the leak so they could profit from it since it was already out there.

Jennifer Lawrence, who had done no nudity, certainly didnt gain from private nude photos hitting the internet for free.  She's an acclaimed actor so it wouldnt hurt her too much but had she agreed to do full frontal in a film, that's a negotiated thing and she'd stand to gain a ton of extra money for doing so.  She probably still would but its not the same now. 

And some actors, it can hurt their image.  (When it happened to some Disney girls it hurt them).  Interesti9ngly, Emma Watson claimed the nude was not her, but the clothed ones were.  Amanda admitted they were all hers and that she owned them and ordered sites to remove them.

[The Unknown Poster]

20 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

Yeah I think she did, they didn't strike me as home made for that special someone. I think she got paid but that's just my thought. I've had plenty of stuff sent my way over the years from chicks and it's much, much different 

I've also seen plenty of celebs who had candid shots taken of them from afar which I don't agree with, I've seen plenty of "made with my phone" homemade stuff too. What i watched of Paige was neither of those but certainly done by a 3rd party (at least 1 half of the vid) so I have my opinion of it,  and it's more a Sunny thing from a wrestler likely looking for extra $ while suspended vs a emma watson or JLaw getting hacked.

I can almost guarantee this is not the case.  Not that I know anyone personally.  But thats a serious long game.  Vids and pics are from several years ago and involve other people who are now married, including her being engaged to a guy who beat the heck out of someone just for brushing past her in a hall way. 

I dont think there was a third party involved.  Several vids were clearly selfie videos.  Another was Maddox holding the camera (in two of the cases) and another was a phone set up on a table (no one holding it) and then the one where there was a phone or ipad set up and Maddox operating another camera.  No like videographer doing a pro shoot or anything.

Plus, if it was for money someone goofed because its everywhere for free.