Jacquie Posted May 6, 2016 Report Posted May 6, 2016 13 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: It was stupid of Trump to run off half cocked about the Cruz/Oswald thing but the allegation is somewhat supported by a couple of experts. They dont say with certainty that it's Cruz' rather in the photo and didnt use face recognition software because the images are too grainy. They determined there was no photo manipulation and then compared by eye. One of the experts has asked Cruz to release more images of his father from that period so they can be sure. So it's not like he made up a story like Cruz' brother is bigfoot or Hilary Clinton is a reptile. There is *some* basis for the discussion but it's really irresponsible to do it and, in my opinion, says more about Trump's fitness for making decisions than it does about Cruz. But hey, if Trump is that interested, perhaps he can promise to release all classified documents pertaining to the JFK assassination should he be elected President. One of the so-called experts was the President of a company called Scan My Photos. I'd like to know what his credentials are for performing facial recognition. The other expert (Carole Lieberman, a University of California - Los Angeles forensic psychiatrist and expert witness) has no background or training in facial recognition said "they seem to match" which is hardly an endorsement. From the Politifact website : Quote James Wayman, the former director of U.S. National Biometric Test Center in the Clinton administration, said proper analysis requires two full-frontal facial images. "Without such images, no professional face examiner will be willing to render an opinion," he said. That being said, we had freelance programmer Lucien Gendrot test it out using Kairos’ face recognition API. The software could not verify a match between photos of the unidentified man next to Oswald and young Rafael Cruz, even at a low threshold of a 25 percent match. My favourite part from this entry: Quote Then, later in the day, Trump was interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer asked him whether he believed the story about Rafael Cruz. "No I don't," Trump said. "Of course I don't think that." He later added, "Of course I don't believe that. I wouldn't believe it. But I did say, 'Let people read it.' " http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/03/donald-trump/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-linking-ted-cruzs-f/ There is no proof that Cruz lived in New Orleans in 1963. A man who was identified in the photo said he had been hired by Oswald outside the unemployment office to hand out the pamphlets which were pro-Castro. By 1963 Cruz was very anti-Castro. Other source: Miami Herald http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html About Politifact.com: Quote PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others who speak up in American politics. PolitiFact is run by editors and reporters from the Tampa Bay Times, an independent newspaper in Florida, as is PunditFact, a site devoted to fact-checking pundits. The PolitiFact state sites are run by news organizations that have partnered with the Times. The state sites and PunditFact follow the same principles as the national site.
The Unknown Poster Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 The Anti-Trumps try to launch independent campaign
iso_55 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Quote I don't blame them. Trump is a freaking moron.
basslicker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) On 2016-04-25 at 10:51 AM, The Unknown Poster said: When I was 19/20 I worked for a popular nightclub in Winnipeg and on Monday's they had "alternative night" which had a large gay clientele. Most of the bouncers didnt want to work it but I was new and I wanted to work. I recall being hit on or complimented many times by guys (in a similar way I was hit on or complimented by women) and couple of my co workers would get physically agitated and ask me why I didnt punch the guy out etc. And I remember saying why would i? it's a compliment. This was a long time ago mind you but I always thought it odd that the guys who professed such outward masculinity were seemingly so concerned about being turned to the gay side. That's an old and worn-out argument. 'You don't like gays and they ,make you uncomfortable so you MUST be gay yourself' Edited May 27, 2016 by basslicker
basslicker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 On 2016-04-25 at 1:24 AM, The Unknown Poster said: But what are you concerned about? You said you never had to worry before so why now? People just don't get what people are concerned about. The people who are Trans, (mentally ill I think, but that's irrelevant to this point) are not the danger, it's male predators abusing that idea and getting access to girls washrooms without question just because they 'feel' like a woman. That's the problem.
basslicker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 On 2016-04-25 at 10:03 AM, The Unknown Poster said: According to the American Psychological Association, children are not more likely to be molested by LGBT parents or their LGBT friends or acquaintances. Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men. The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to ****** children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests. It's also true that domestic violence if higher in same-sex couples, and lesbian couples specifically. Go google it, lots of info will come up. And I believe it's for the reason as why Trans people have a grossly high suicide rate.....they're struggling with their life and their choices and what they perceive themselves to be.
The Unknown Poster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 43 minutes ago, basslicker said: That's an old and worn-out argument. 'You don't like gays and they ,make you uncomfortable so you MUST be gay yourself' Im not sure if you misunderstood or if Im misunderstanding you but I find your reply a bit confusing. Who do you perceive as using that argument? Me or them?
The Unknown Poster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 42 minutes ago, basslicker said: People just don't get what people are concerned about. The people who are Trans, (mentally ill I think, but that's irrelevant to this point) are not the danger, it's male predators abusing that idea and getting access to girls washrooms without question just because they 'feel' like a woman. That's the problem. The idea male predators have been waiting for this moment where they can dress as women to infiltrate bathroom is hilariously absurd. Like, raping a child they are cool with, but accessing a bathroom illegally, thats where they draw the line. The argument is silly and there simply no basis to have an issue with this. I dont know what bathrooms these people have been going into but the idea that now they will be filled with predators is absurd and not supported by facts, stats or common sense. Its anti-gay rhetoric dressed up to look like concern for children which makes it even more appalling. Years from now people will look back on this stuff and just shake their head.
IC Khari Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 On 5/15/2016 at 9:13 PM, iso_55 said: I don't blame them. Trump is a freaking moron. That's President Moron to you The Unknown Poster and FrostyWinnipeg 2
The Unknown Poster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, IC Khari said: That's President Moron to you I really cant imagine he beats Hilary. Trump's rhetoric and style plays well to a certain audience but I think when things get more serious he will come across as simply too arrogant, dismissive and insulting. Ofcourse, never under estimate the amount of people who dont give a heck but I cant see it. Barring a scandal, Hilary wipes the floor with him. She will come across far too logical, intelligent, measured and "presidential" next to Trump.
iso_55 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: I really cant imagine he beats Hilary. Trump's rhetoric and style plays well to a certain audience but I think when things get more serious he will come across as simply too arrogant, dismissive and insulting. Ofcourse, never under estimate the amount of people who dont give a heck but I cant see it. Barring a scandal, Hilary wipes the floor with him. She will come across far too logical, intelligent, measured and "presidential" next to Trump. Well, there are some email issues.
The Unknown Poster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, iso_55 said: Well, there are some email issues. That's true. Thats why I mentioned scandal...lol But I dont think there will be anything that brings her down. If anything, the whole scenario will be so negative and perceived as in the gutter that the voters at large will feel both sides suck equally. And that still plays to Hillary's favour. I think more Democrats are likely to hold their nose and vote for her then Republicans are to vote for Trump. In fact many Republican's will vote for Hilary to block Trump. Trump's hope relies on gathering steam with large groups of historic non-voters who show up to put him in. Jessie Ventura became governor of Minnesota because so many non-voters voted for the "non-politician", the outsider. But Jessie ran a great campaign that appealed to the average person and he wasnt nuts, at least not then. What makes Trump popular will likely be what causes him to lose. If he changes to broaden his appeal, he will lose what makes him attractive to certain voters while not gaining enough from people he's changing for. If he doesnt change, he'll be seen as the maverick. Just wait til Bill campaign hard and Obama campaigns. And then some republican's begin supporting her (or at least refusing to vote for Trump). She *should* win quite easily. I think its important she is open to Sanders' "demands" and gets his endorsement Now that Trump is the de facto nominee, the Dems need to stop screwing around and throw their entire support behind her. Bernie and his peeps want a seat at the table though...so fine
iso_55 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 Basically what you're saying is the Republicans have guaranteed 4 more years of Democrat rule. Be interesting what happens in Congress & the Senate.
The Unknown Poster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, iso_55 said: Basically what you're saying is the Republicans have guaranteed 4 more years of Democrat rule. Be interesting what happens in Congress & the Senate. I think so. But there are far more studious political watchers here than me. The Republican's brought this on themselves long before Trump came along. Their pandering to the niche vocal minorities in their party hurt them. I saw one person on CNN talking about how it dates back to their sacrificing the southern vote and that leading to them being the party attractive to those who are tough on immigration...well basically most social issues, so if you have a problem with immigrants, minorities, gays, Muslims etc, you're going to be a republican most likely. And the louder those voices became, the more the party embraced them. Essentially making deals with the devil. Now the chickens have come home to roost and the party isnt the same one of, say Reagan that tried to be more pragmatic (though he was an outsider too, but one who was a two-term governor of a huge economy in California). Hard to imagine this is the same party that was the party of Lincoln. But I guess it really isnt. And as a conservative myself, I want to vomit when I see some of the policies and beliefs of major Republican figures. If I could vote in the US, I would have voted for Bush. I would have likely supported Jeb this time too. But I would vote Hilary. And the blip is that I like Bill a lot.
Jpan85 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 People really misjudge how hateable Clinton is though. She is not liked out side of her base. IC Khari and Goalie 2
iso_55 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Jpan85 said: People really misjudge how hateable Clinton is though. She is not liked out side of her base. Trump is hated outside his base & a lot of Americans will pinch their noses voting for her over Trump.
Goalie Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Donald Trump is the topic name eh. All I have to add is Will be next president of the United States unless Bernie can take down that lying awful woman. I obviously won't be voting but if I could and the choices were Donald or Hillary... I'd vote Donald. If it was Donald vs The Bern... I'd vote for The Bern Edited May 28, 2016 by Goalie
Brandon Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 8 hours ago, basslicker said: People just don't get what people are concerned about. The people who are Trans, (mentally ill I think, but that's irrelevant to this point) are not the danger, it's male predators abusing that idea and getting access to girls washrooms without question just because they 'feel' like a woman. That's the problem. If a person wants to be a perv or a rapist and attack at a bathroom... they would be doing it already. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/man-faces-child-pornography-charges-after-incident-in-west-edmonton-mall-bathroom-1.3599644 The video is on the net somewhere of the dad catching this sick f*** taking videos of a boy taking a pee. I'm amazed that the parents and others held restraint because the moment I caught someone doing that it... he would be absolutely destroyed. Honestly I think the only issues i see with doing a free for all bathroom is many many people simply will feel un easy and uncomfortable. Example #1... most women have poop anxiety where they are terrified of others hearing them poop. I know several ladies who avoid using the bathroom and wait until they get home. No way will they rain chocolate thunder if a guy is around. Example #2 - Some guys are insecure and can't pee if anyone is around or talking to them.... I can only imagine those guys freaking out if a cute girls is washing her hands while he is at the urinal! Society would have to drastically change for people to accept a free for all bathroom.... change rooms would have to be combined, women would have to be allowed to go topless (woohoo), Blue Bombers would have to win the cup etc.....
The Unknown Poster Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 But thats really a minor issue right? Firstly bathrooms aren't going to suddenly be over run with trans people. Most people likely will never notice a change. And it still comes down to, if you don't want to use a public bathroom, don't. Many public bathrooms are "private" also, single stall where you can lock the door and have it all to yourself. Basically this was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first place. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Transgender bathrooms would be the worst thing to happen for Trans people. It's like inviting idiots in to beat them up. Just hand out baseball bats and weapons and guns at the doors of these bathrooms. I mean really. It's so stupid. Inviting people who aren't Trans in there to woop some ass Edited May 28, 2016 by Goalie
Brandon Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Goalie said: Transgender bathrooms would be the worst thing to happen for Trans people. It's like inviting idiots in to beat them up. Just hand out baseball bats and weapons and guns at the doors of these bathrooms. I mean really. It's so stupid. Inviting people who aren't Trans in there to woop some ass I can see lots of issues at bars where alcohol escalates situations. The same goes if they make a uni sex bathroom.... drunk guys would definitely be idiots towards the ladies... it's a given. But I can't see if a Trans goes into McDonalds and a random dad sees them and then beats the crap out of them. I'm pretty sure 99% of the population doesn't want to get a record just to prove a point. What I see happening is the same as what already happens where people will be rude and vocally chastise them. I remember at a wedding when a guy who had boobs but still looked like a man went into the womens washroom.... he came out bawling because the ladies told him to GTFO. Society isn't going to change they will always have a large amount of people who will not accept them. Now if the idea is to build a singular unisex bathroom on top of already having a male and female washroom then (so pretty much like the episode of South Park that makes fun of this) then I'm pretty sure it'll be peaceful and we won't have UFC brawls in these stand alones toilets.
The Unknown Poster Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 Bars would be the least issue because they hbe security. Plus women were always using the men's bathroom at the bar when there was a line up for the ladies. No issues whatsoever. Really, this is a problem that doesn't exist.
Jacquie Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 Vince Foster's sister has written a response to Donald Trump's insinuations that her brother was murdered. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vince-foster-was-my-brother-donald-trump-should-be-ashamed/2016/05/26/95c684f2-233f-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html?tid=sm_fb And then Trump has the gall to say this when asked about it: Quote Remarkably, when Trump was asked about Anthony’s moving op-ed on Thursday, he feigned ignorance about playing any role in reviving the tired right-wing conspiracy theory. “I really know nothing about the Vince Foster situation,” Trump told reporters at a rambling press conference in South Dakota. “Haven’t known anything about it.” Unable to help himself, Trump quickly added that “a lot of people are very skeptical as to what happened,” before claiming the conspiracy theory should actually remain out of the campaign “unless some evidence to the contrary of what I’ve seen comes up.” http://www.salon.com/2016/05/27/vince_fosters_sister_just_made_sure_donald_trump_never_again_mentions_his_cruel_conspiracy_about_her_brothers_suicide/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow If he thinks it should remain out of the campaign then why the hell did he bring it up in the first place. SMH
Brandon Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 11 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Bars would be the least issue because they hbe security. Plus women were always using the men's bathroom at the bar when there was a line up for the ladies. No issues whatsoever. Really, this is a problem that doesn't exist. I have never seen security in a bathroom at a bar. I have only seen the guy holding all the cheap cologne and crap pumping up my confidence and telling me I can get all the sweet.... love.... from the girls at the bar that night lol. It definitely could be an issue , drunk men who are lonely tend to do stupid things. Most normal establishments I'm sure it would be fine. Some other places.... (i.e. Bar in La Broquerie where I saw Honkey Tonk Man and a tonne of drunk locals) that could be very dangerous. I completely will disagree that bars would be the least issue because I'd say more trouble occurs at a bars bathroom compared to the toilet at your local Tim Hortons!
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