kelownabomberfan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Posted October 2, 2016 On 9/28/2016 at 2:46 PM, Jimmy Pop said: And even that trade, from a pure talent perspective: Kane was the best player in that deal. and yet we got a guy who was picked 12th overall and won rookie of the year back. I know one guy here has a hate on for him but I am so happy Chevy pried Myers out of Buffalo. He'll be a good anchor of our D for a long time. And he wants to be here!! JCon 1
Ducky Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) If you are referring to me, I don't have a hate on for him. I just think he is our 3rd best RHD and should have been traded for a LHD. Now, Trouba wants a trade so I am happy with keeping Myers as our 2RHD. You have a hate on for Enstrom though and he is our 1LHD! Without him our LHD looks like Chiarot, Stuart, Morrissey. Morrissey will make the team but Stu shouldn't be on it and Chiarot is a good 7th D man. Edited October 2, 2016 by Ducky
kelownabomberfan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Posted October 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ducky said: If you are referring to me, I don't have a hate on for him. I just think he is our 3rd best RHD and should have been traded for a LHD. Now, Trouba wants a trade so I am happy with keeping Myers as our 2RHD. You have a hate on for Enstrom though and he is our 1LHD! Without him our LHD looks like Chiarot, Stuart, Morrissey. Morrissey will make the team but Stu shouldn't be on it and Chiarot is a good 7th D man. If Enstrom is our 1LHD (I hate these stupid terms) then that's why we won't make the playoffs again this year. We need to get better at that spot. A lot better. Goalie 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 2, 2016 Report Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Toby had a good year last season. Best since season one. Best of a bad lot. +8(tied with Wheels/Copp for 2nd) not bad for a defensive d-man which is what he is now. Edited October 2, 2016 by FrostyWinnipeg
Ducky Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said: If Enstrom is our 1LHD (I hate these stupid terms) then that's why we won't make the playoffs again this year. We need to get better at that spot. A lot better. You don't do that by trading your best player at that position. We need to upgrade our D depth. There isn't much in the cupboard after Morrissey in the near future.
kelownabomberfan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Posted October 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Ducky said: You don't do that by trading your best player at that position. We need to upgrade our D depth. There isn't much in the cupboard after Morrissey in the near future. We can agree on the fact that we need to upgrade our D depth. If Enstrom is the best player at his position then we have a serious problem, as he is just plain not good enough to be in that position.
Ducky Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Posted October 3, 2016 He is our 3rd or 4th best D man but for sure our best LHD.
Goalie Posted October 3, 2016 Report Posted October 3, 2016 Depends what you want from your D men. If we are talking who our best defensive d man is... Enstrom is probably number 1. If talking about overall he's behind buff for sure and Myers I guess.
Noeller Posted October 3, 2016 Report Posted October 3, 2016 one guy's hate for Myers and another's for Enstrom, are both equally silly. Both players are really important keys to Jets success this season. Very good players that pretty much any team in the league would want... JCon and sweep the leg 2
Ducky Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Posted October 3, 2016 Except I don't hate Myers. I take him for what he is. A smooth skating BIG D man that doesn't have a high hockey IQ and plays way too soft.
Ducky Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Streit, MDZ (re-signed), Hagg for Trouba (re-signed) and Lemieux. Streit (for one year) MDZ and Enstrom as our starting LHD. MDZ re-signed for four years for a 2LHD would be nice. Hagg is going to play in the NHL in a couple years. Philly drops close to 10m in salary so they have room to pay Trouba and Lemieux. Enstrom Buff MDZ Myers Streit Morrissey Streit is gone in a year and Enstrom in two. Morrissey slides over to the left side and Hagg starts in two. Edited October 4, 2016 by Ducky
Goalie Posted October 4, 2016 Report Posted October 4, 2016 Good god. Trouba is worth more than that by himself. Stop withthe fantasy trades or at least try to put some thought in it. With Philly .... unless sanheim or Provorov is involved nope and Lemieux ain't going anywhere yet if ever. Jets very high on him.
kelownabomberfan Posted October 4, 2016 Report Posted October 4, 2016 Except I don't hate Enstrom. I take him for what he is. A smooth skating SMALL D man that doesn't just gives up the puck to anyone and everyone with almost no struggle.
Ducky Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Posted October 4, 2016 He actually clears the zone as good as any D man on the team. He doesn't win many battles in the corners though. Noeller 1
The Unknown Poster Posted October 7, 2016 Report Posted October 7, 2016 I had a dream last night that the Jets traded Trouba to Buffalo in something like a 12-14 player trade. Oddly, it seemed they ended up with Krug so maybe it was a three team deal. But leaving Winnipeg was Trouba, Lemieux, Armia, a minor league goalie who's name I cant remember (Phillips?) and I think Burmi for a package that included almost no one I had heard of. And everyone was angry. Then I woke up mad.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 7, 2016 Report Posted October 7, 2016 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: I had a dream last night that the Jets traded Trouba to Buffalo in something like a 12-14 player trade. Oddly, it seemed they ended up with Krug so maybe it was a three team deal. But leaving Winnipeg was Trouba, Lemieux, Armia, a minor league goalie who's name I cant remember (Phillips?) and I think Burmi for a package that included almost no one I had heard of. And everyone was angry. Then I woke up mad. Atomic and The Unknown Poster 2
sweep the leg Posted October 7, 2016 Report Posted October 7, 2016 I'm not sure how bad I want Krug in a Jets uniform. He'd help our pp, but he's a train wreck defensively. I wouldn't want him playing big minutes outside of the pp.
Ducky Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Posted October 7, 2016 We don't need Krug...who does he replace on the PP?......... we need a defensive-minded D man.
Goalie Posted October 7, 2016 Report Posted October 7, 2016 No. We need a good d man. Whether he be good offensively or defensively is irrelevant. Krug doesn't interest me at all tho. Plus the Krug stuff started with Eklund so that guarantees it doesn't happen The Unknown Poster 1
Ducky Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Posted October 25, 2016 Enstrom hasn't been bad and Myers has been not bad the last one and a half games but we need a D man that plays sound defense.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, Ducky said: Enstrom hasn't been bad and Myers has been not bad the last one and a half games but we need a D man that plays sound defense. Need 2 of them. Ducky 1
Goalie Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) So let's just pretend Ottawa offered Erik Karlsson for Trouba? You'd turn that down cuz we need a good defensive d man? I don't think so. The best D is a good O. The more this Lindholm in Anaheim stuff drags on I think it's more likely a trouba plus petan type for Lindholm deal seems likely. Edited October 25, 2016 by Goalie
Ducky Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Posted October 25, 2016 I wasn't talking about Trouba....we need a defensive D man whether it is in trade for Trouba or not. Our problem is keeping the goals out of the net.
Goalie Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, Ducky said: I wasn't talking about Trouba....we need a defensive D man whether it is in trade for Trouba or not. Our problem is keeping the goals out of the net. Maybe it's a coaching problem cuz it seems like that's been the issue regardless of who is in goal.
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