pigseye Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 Herb Zurkowsky @HerbZurkowsky1 Ottawa loses Travon Van to 6-week IR and signs @Nic_Grigsby5. The #Als lose @AllOfASutton22 for six weeks - at least - and do nothing. Nicks still around.
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not but I thought O'Shea really set the tone for Saturday's game in Calgary. Promising drive, Willy getting the ball out quick, drive stalls. 52 yard field goal attempt for Medlock who is the best kicker in the CFL. Infact we're paying him big money to hit kicks constantly at this distance. 3rd and 10 and we decide to do a fake field goal. We get one yard on the play and O'Shea decides to use a pointless challenge on pass interference which fails miserably. Sets up Calgary in great field position to get the opening points of the game. These are the kind of sequences that kills a team and momentum. Tracker and Bigblue204 2
17to85 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 Obviously with hindsight it's a terrible call but I like the aggressiveness of it. It was early in the game so you got all sorts of time to rebound if it doesn't work and if it does work you get some early momentum. The D falling apart over the course of the game was by far the biggest concern. Everyone is on the offence but I am less worried about them than the defense. johnzo, MOBomberFan and Goalie 3
sweep the leg Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 I liked the fake fg attempt. Too bad they were allowed to hold our receiver. Brandon Blue&Gold, MOBomberFan, Goalie and 4 others 7
Goalie Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) We had a lead for a bit. That play was a good one to try. It failed but Calgary was held to a fg. The fake fg try played no role in the loss at all. I agree about the D. Way more concerned. Ppl cab say that the reason they are on the field so long is cuz the O isn't but that's not really accurate. They are on the field because they can't get a 2 and out. Edited July 4, 2016 by Goalie
Blueandgold Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) They should've saved the fake for a third & medium or less situation. Ten yards on that play was going to be hard to come by. Edited July 4, 2016 by Blueandgold Bigblue204 1
Mr Dee Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 One of the complaints on the Bombers is that we don't hang onto the ball on offence for any period of time. For the Bombers to fake that FG try is exactly the reason we hired a guy like MOS. Hes sneaky in that regard. It was a play that they practiced and we would have hung onto the ball for a while longer. It failed because Burnett was grabbed coming off the line, or else he had a ton of yardage. O'Shea was completely right to challenge that play. Again, it should have allowed us to hang onto the ball and perhaps even score. Too bad the officials didn't acknowledge that grab on Burnett as being enough to warrant a call. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
17to85 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Goalie said: We had a lead for a bit. That play was a good one to try. It failed but Calgary was held to a fg. The fake fg try played no role in the loss at all. I agree about the D. Way more concerned. Ppl cab say that the reason they are on the field so long is cuz the O isn't but that's not really accurate. They are on the field because they can't get a 2 and out. It's absolutely a cop out excuse, especially in that game. Even with a lopsided TOP a D doesn't get gassed by the 2nd quarter. The D was just flat out bad all on their own. There was one drive where the Stamps started under their own goal posts and marched for a touchdown. Think it was right after half too. No tired excuses there, just flat out terrible play by the unit.
Fatty Liver Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 Good pick up for the Esks. Dave Campbell @Dave_CHED 2h2 hours ago #Eskimos acquire LB Hoffman-Ellis from Tiger-Cats http://www.630ched.com/2016/07/04/eskimos-acquire-lb-hoffman-ellis-from-tiger-cats/ … #CFL #yeg
rebusrankin Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 D was poor in Calgary no question but the offense has back to back games up putting up a little more than 100 yards of offense and a total of 11 points through 3 quarters. Heck and 7 of those was due to a great defensive play. That's not a worry?
Fatty Liver Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, 17to85 said: It's absolutely a cop out excuse, especially in that game. Even with a lopsided TOP a D doesn't get gassed by the 2nd quarter. The D was just flat out bad all on their own. There was one drive where the Stamps started under their own goal posts and marched for a touchdown. Think it was right after half too. No tired excuses there, just flat out terrible play by the unit. Except there is this... Scott Mitchell @ScottMitchellPM Jul 2 Marquay McDaniel on #Bombers: “Winnipeg just didn’t look like they had a lot of energy last night, really. Especially on defence.” #CFL
sweep the leg Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Except there is this... Scott Mitchell @ScottMitchellPM Jul 2 Marquay McDaniel on #Bombers: “Winnipeg just didn’t look like they had a lot of energy last night, really. Especially on defence.” #CFL That sounds more like he's questioning their intensity, not a literal comment on their conditioning. Atomic, JohnnyOnTheSpot, Tracker and 1 other 4
Mr Dee Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: That sounds more like he's questioning their intensity, not a literal comment on their conditioning. I would agree with this. It's one thing to come out and look 'tired', it's quite another thing to always have to come out because your offence is not doing what they're paid to do...stay on the field for more than the mandatory 3 plays. Let's face it, the defence did not look good, at all, but, when the opposing offence is allowed to continually come back on the filed and use their entire playbook on us, that will lead to confusion, and derision. And yes, a good mix of running and passing will lead to a 'tired' defence, a lack of intensity or whatever you want to call it. How would you feel to have to run out back on the field after every 3 plays because your offence is so ineffective? blitzmore 1
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 32 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: One of the complaints on the Bombers is that we don't hang onto the ball on offence for any period of time. For the Bombers to fake that FG try is exactly the reason we hired a guy like MOS. Hes sneaky in that regard. It was a play that they practiced and we would have hung onto the ball for a while longer. It failed because Burnett was grabbed coming off the line, or else he had a ton of yardage. O'Shea was completely right to challenge that play. Again, it should have allowed us to hang onto the ball and perhaps even score. Too bad the officials didn't acknowledge that grab on Burnett as being enough to warrant a call. And when was the last time we properly executed a fake field goal/punt? 3rd and medium sure but 3rd and 10.. Not too sure about that one. There certainly wasn't enough of a hold to warrant pass interference on the play. The refs got it right. This sequence of events weren't enough to change the game because lets face it.. The Bombers pulled out a stinker but in a close football game this is the difference between a win and a loss and thats on O'Shea. Tracker 1
Fatty Liver Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: And when was the last time we properly executed a fake field goal/punt? 3rd and medium sure but 3rd and 10.. Not too sure about that one. There certainly wasn't enough of a hold to warrant pass interference on the play. The refs got it right. This sequence of events weren't enough to change the game because lets face it.. The Bombers pulled out a stinker but in a close football game this is the difference between a win and a loss and thats on O'Shea. Which close football game are you referring to? My memory fails me.
Fatty Liver Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: And when was the last time we properly executed a fake field goal/punt? 3rd and medium sure but 3rd and 10.. Not too sure about that one. There certainly wasn't enough of a hold to warrant pass interference on the play. The refs got it right. This sequence of events weren't enough to change the game because lets face it.. The Bombers pulled out a stinker but in a close football game this is the difference between a win and a loss and thats on O'Shea. The great Jesse Briggs. Unfortunately some responsible adult ruined his Wikipedia page by editing out the glory. October 10th, 2015 game vs. the BC Lions, Jesse gained 11 yards on a 3rd and 10 fake punt run. Edited July 4, 2016 by Throw Long Bannatyne
Bigblue204 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, Noeller said: Dressler returns Friday, says MOS... Damn so he'll miss one more week Tracker 1
Noeller Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Posted July 4, 2016 Is this still the "Around The League Regular Season New" discussion thread, or is it another complaining about Friday thread? I can change the title.......? bigg jay and Goalie 2
17to85 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 You know I am rewatching the game from Friday, here's what Chris Cuthbert says right after the last touchdown the stamps got that quarter.... "The Stamps have only punted once in 6 possessions this half" Go on, process that and tell me that it's all because the D was tired because the offense didn't stay on the field long enough. Truthfully the offense wasn't even THAT bad, just that the D never got off the field to give the offence a chance to get things rolling. Willy was fine in that first half, but some drops and some shitty OL play ended a few drives prematurely on him. Atomic 1
Mr Dee Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 On the flip side, after the initial drive, the Bombers had the ball in 4 more possessions...and got 1 first down in the first half. In comparison, when BC beat Calgary in week 1, they ran 68 plays. Not counting the marvellous 4th quarter, how many plays did the Bombers run in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters? - 28, including the last play in the half and 2 plays after the blocked punt. So - 25 in 10 possessions, including the opening drive. A few more 1st downs and Calgary doesn't even get the ball to score their 2nd TD. rebusrankin and blitzmore 2
Fred C Dobbs Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 Yet another one: Brandon and MOBomberFan 2
rebusrankin Posted July 4, 2016 Report Posted July 4, 2016 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: You know I am rewatching the game from Friday, here's what Chris Cuthbert says right after the last touchdown the stamps got that quarter.... "The Stamps have only punted once in 6 possessions this half" Go on, process that and tell me that it's all because the D was tired because the offense didn't stay on the field long enough. Truthfully the offense wasn't even THAT bad, just that the D never got off the field to give the offence a chance to get things rolling. Willy was fine in that first half, but some drops and some shitty OL play ended a few drives prematurely on him. BS on the offense wasn't that bad. Just over 100 yards in 3 quarters and a TD set up by a blocked FG. Willy was not fine. Tracker 1
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