do or die Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Noeller said: Lol at doom and gloom after Game 1. I don't know how you guys get through a day... Posted 1096755 hour ago · Report post Lol at doom and gloom after Game 1. I don't know how you guys get through a day... Edited June 25, 2016 by do or die
Brandon Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Posted June 25, 2016 52 minutes ago, Noeller said: Game 1 of 18, guys.......game 1. This was the easy game for our early schedule.
LeBird Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Like Bettman said last night:"Winnipeg, you're on the clock!".
pigseye Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Patience is a virtue, hesitation is a fools errand. The Bombers got caught with their pants down this game and their Willy exposed.
TBURGESS Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Patience my ass! We blew our best chance for a win in the first third of the season and we didn't just lose it, we were owned in our own stadium by Montreal who everyone is picking for last in the east. Montreal made a bunch of mistakes that woulda/coulda/shoulda cost them the game, but we never took advantage of any of them. Our $400K QB played like a $100K QB until the game was out of hand then threw a couple of bombs that made his stats look decent. Our shiny new OC who was supposed to lead us to the promised land finally unveiled his new offence and it totally sucked even tho it wasn't vanilla. Much more of this kind of play and the O'Shea death watch will be on if it isn't already.
Tracker Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Patience my ass! We blew our best chance for a win in the first third of the season and we didn't just lose it, we were owned in our own stadium by Montreal who everyone is picking for last in the east. Montreal made a bunch of mistakes that woulda/coulda/shoulda cost them the game, but we never took advantage of any of them. Our $400K QB played like a $100K QB until the game was out of hand then threw a couple of bombs that made his stats look decent. Our shiny new OC who was supposed to lead us to the promised land finally unveiled his new offence and it totally sucked even tho it wasn't vanilla. Much more of this kind of play and the O'Shea death watch will be on if it isn't already. Another couple of losses like this and Willy's salary will seem high at $100K.
Fatty Liver Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Patience my ass! We blew our best chance for a win in the first third of the season and we didn't just lose it, we were owned in our own stadium by Montreal who everyone is picking for last in the east. Montreal made a bunch of mistakes that woulda/coulda/shoulda cost them the game, but we never took advantage of any of them. Our $400K QB played like a $100K QB until the game was out of hand then threw a couple of bombs that made his stats look decent. Our shiny new OC who was supposed to lead us to the promised land finally unveiled his new offence and it totally sucked even tho it wasn't vanilla. Much more of this kind of play and the O'Shea death watch will be on if it isn't already. Can't fault LaPo's scheme, it would have looked brilliant with Collaros at the helm. BigBlueFanatic and blitzmore 2
HardCoreBlue Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Can't fault LaPo's scheme, it would have looked brilliant with Collaros at the helm. If that's the case, it is on Lapo. Coaching 101 tells us you create schemes with what you got not try to fit a player into a brilliant scheme you want. Bigblue204 1
Fatty Liver Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: If that's the case, it is on Lapo. Coaching 101 tells us you create schemes with what you got not try to fit a player into a brilliant scheme you want. That's a valid point but Willy seems best suited to working with a 3 second window to find his receivers, which can't be realistically provided for in this era of football.
Mr Dee Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Speaking of LaPo, somebody on Twitter wrote on the need for the Coach's playbook to break down how bad this offence was doing. Bigblue204, Brandon and Blueandgold 3
Bigblue204 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: That's a valid point but Willy seems best suited to working with a 3 second window to find his receivers, which can't be realistically provided for in this era of football. except there were plenty of plays were glen had a 3 step drop and the ball was gone. No chance at pressure at all. 3 seconds is totally doable. We just weren't doing it. For what ever reasons. Drew looked shell shocked still. Couldn't decide where to go, and when he did...didn't seem to trust what he saw. blitzmore 1
Tracker Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 25 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Speaking of LaPo, somebody on Twitter wrote on the need for the Coach's playbook to break down how bad this offence was doing. The offence has been plenty broken down, thank you.
do or die Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Well, Bombers showed a great deal of patience, waiting until the last 10 minutes to resemble a actual football team. We need to take a lesson from this......uh, of some sort... rebusrankin 1
Fatty Liver Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 58 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: except there were plenty of plays were glen had a 3 step drop and the ball was gone. No chance at pressure at all. 3 seconds is totally doable. We just weren't doing it. For what ever reasons. Drew looked shell shocked still. Couldn't decide where to go, and when he did...didn't seem to trust what he saw. A 3 step drop is usually a 2 second play, expecting to hold off a blitz-crazy opponent for 3 seconds is courting disaster. The 3-step drop has got to become Willy's bread and butter as his ad-libbing skills are poor. Bigblue204 and blitzmore 2
rebusrankin Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 21 and 52 in the past 4+ seasons. 15-40 the past 3+. This is our reality and people wonder why fans aren't patient? White Out, Floyd, IC Khari and 1 other 4
Bigblue204 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: A 3 step drop is usually a 2 second play, expecting to hold off a blitz-crazy opponent for 3 seconds is courting disaster. The 3-step drop has got to become Willy's bread and butter as his ad-libbing skills are poor. I see what you mean. And yes I completely agree with you. Need to get the ball out of his hands
Arnold_Palmer Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 14 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: A 3 step drop is usually a 2 second play, expecting to hold off a blitz-crazy opponent for 3 seconds is courting disaster. The 3-step drop has got to become Willy's bread and butter as his ad-libbing skills are poor. The reason Kevin Glenn still has a job in this league is his quick release. Only him and his old OC Anthony Calvillo were able to get the ball off that quickly. If there's anyone Drew Willy needs to mold his game off of it's Kevin Glenn. You simply can't get to him the ball is already out of his hands by the time the pocket starts to break down. Mr Dee and JohnnyOnTheSpot 2
LeBird Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I see what you mean. And yes I completely agree with you. Need to get the ball out of his hands He might be able to do it in 2 secs if he did not feel compelled to do the one second jig. The guy has feet that are way too happy.
Bigblue204 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 1 minute ago, LeBird said: He might be able to do it in 2 secs if he did not feel compelled to do the one second jig. The guy has feet that are way too happy. yeah likely from taking too many hits. I remember in 14 him being very calm in the pocket and stepping up while looking down field. He's looking a lot more like Buck now.
BBRT Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 3 hours ago, do or die said: Posted 1096755 hour ago · Report post Lol at doom and gloom after Game 1. I don't know how you guys get through a day... I think the majority of us will give MOS a little more time to get things right. But the score did flatter the Bombers and should not have been even that close. Drew Willy's performance in the first half was miserable and the defence made Kevin Glenn look like an all star. So I can see where the Doom and Gloom come from. However let's see where things stand at the 1/3 mark. If the Bombers are 1-5 or 0-6 - and they very well could be - it will be time to make some serious changes. From what I can see so far this team regardless of who they bring in player wise just is not well coached. Tracker 1
do or die Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 Wouldn't be the first QB, we have broken down, round here. Looked like a combination of rust, lack of timing and some lack of confidence from Willy, last night. Someone needs to explain to Bob Wyle and the rest of the brain trust .....that having any QB take 50+ sacks and a couple of hundred hits, every year does take a toll. Better hope that we are going to get a better fit between O scheme and current QB moving forward. Better execution all round - catching, blocking etc would help as well. Recognizing the problems is not rocket science - the deal is what this coaching staff and the QB are going to do about - right bloody now. Mark F and Floyd 2
Fatty Liver Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: The reason Kevin Glenn still has a job in this league is his quick release. Only him and his old OC Anthony Calvillo were able to get the ball off that quickly. If there's anyone Drew Willy needs to mold his game off of it's Kevin Glenn. You simply can't get to him the ball is already out of his hands by the time the pocket starts to break down. I agree, Kevin Glenn is channeling Calvillo right now and that combo is going to cause major fits for any DC. Willy doesn't have Glenn's skill set, he is more similar to Ricky Ray in athletic ability, build and mobility. Ray's success was built upon a war chest of great offencive weapons and a heavy reliance on timing roots, Willy needs to do the same. Willy can be reprogrammed but it isn't going to be pretty. Edited June 25, 2016 by Throw Long Bannatyne IC Khari 1
B-F-F-C Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, BBRT said: I think the majority of us will give MOS a little more time to get things right. But the score did flatter the Bombers and should not have been even that close. Drew Willy's performance in the first half was miserable and the defence made Kevin Glenn look like an all star. So I can see where the Doom and Gloom come from. However let's see where things stand at the 1/3 mark. If the Bombers are 1-5 or 0-6 - and they very well could be - it will be time to make some serious changes. From what I can see so far this team regardless of who they bring in player wise just is not well coached. BBRT...you're getting mellow in your old age.
Floyd Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 The scariest thing in that game was the clock management and play calling in the last drive. Seems like Osh has still not got a handle on game management..
Guest J5V Posted June 25, 2016 Report Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said: The reason Kevin Glenn still has a job in this league is his quick release. Only him and his old OC Anthony Calvillo were able to get the ball off that quickly. If there's anyone Drew Willy needs to mold his game off of it's Kevin Glenn. You simply can't get to him the ball is already out of his hands by the time the pocket starts to break down. Yes and we could have easily been penalized a couple of times for hitting Glenn late.
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