FrostyWinnipeg Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 In a world where 66pts in 77 games = 10 mil. Scary. Course I think CHI overpaid for Toews and Kane too.
Atomic Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: In a world where 66pts in 77 games = 10 mil. Scary. Course I think CHI overpaid for Toews and Kane too. Put Tavares on a line with Ehlers and Laine and check in on his points total...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Posted May 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, Atomic said: Tavares can likely get that money in at least 10-15 different cities in the NHL. If I am him, there is no way I'm staying in NY. Not once in his time there has he been given any top-tier talent to work with. And any time their young players start to develop, they are shipped out of town. It's a terrible place to play hockey. But he can only get an 8 year deal in New York.
kelownabomberfan Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 On 5/8/2017 at 7:53 AM, Goalie said: . It's unfortunate tho we didn't sign David Clarkson or the many other guys who get severely overpaid on July 1st. ?
Floyd Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 Bishop's rights apparently traded to Dallas for a 4th round pick...
Floyd Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 Now H&L talking about trading for 31 year old Corey Schneider... ha
The Unknown Poster Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) As noted: Thats interesting as they still have two other goalies under contract for next yeah, no? Edited May 9, 2017 by The Unknown Poster
The Unknown Poster Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Floyd said: Now H&L talking about trading for 31 year old Corey Schneider... ha Ive seen chatter about this. Its not terrible. If they idea is a veteran back up for two seasons. Supposedly he didn't like Winnipeg though.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Floyd said: Now H&L talking about trading for 31 year old Corey Schneider... ha Oh gawd, is this coming from Chipman?
iHeart Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 DAMMIT well which goalies are still have free agency coming?
The Unknown Poster Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Oh gawd, is this coming from Chipman? I think Tessier mentioned it in a blog today so people were talking about it. It was a blog about trading the 13th overall and dove tailed into how Jersey traded for Corey etc.
iHeart Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Floyd said: Now H&L talking about trading for 31 year old Corey Schneider... ha uhh;.......no thank you
The Unknown Poster Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Posted May 9, 2017 He had a down year but his career stats are better than anything we have. Question is, was last year an aberration or the beginning of the end? 31 is too early for the end, I'd say. And he'd be called upon to be a steady veteran 1B. Unfortunately he is getting paid $5 million per year for 5 more years. So it won't happen unless NJ ate half that salary and even then the term is too long.
Atomic Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 Unfortunately you have to accept the element of risk when signing a goalie. You're not getting a good free agent goalie for less than a 4 year term. Can't help but sit here and laugh as all these teams are making trades to acquire goalies and beat the free agent market because it wasn't 2 or 3 weeks ago that people were saying "there won't be much of a market for goalies so we'll have our pick!" Floyd 1
Noeller Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 You could do a LOT worse than Schneider as a back-up to Helle.....depending on the contract, I'd be okay with that...
Floyd Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Noeller said: You could do a LOT worse than Schneider as a back-up to Helle.....depending on the contract, I'd be okay with that... Except there's no depending on the contract... its five more years at $6 million.
Atomic Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 2009-10 .915 2010-11 .929 2011-12 .936 2012-13 .927 2013-14 .921 2014-15 .925 2015-16 .924 2016-17 .908 Personally I would bet on Schneider bouncing back. JCon 1
Goalie Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Why. When raanta elliot grubauer and Steve mason are available and cheaper and probably better options and the best part all they will cost you is maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder and a B prospect like Kosmachuk. Or in mason and Elliots case... whatever contract you offer them. Tessier writes for hockey buzz which is eklunds site so... in other words he's full of crap Edited May 10, 2017 by Goalie Floyd 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Floyd said: Except there's no depending on the contract... its five more years at $6 million. Who signed him to that chit contract?
The Unknown Poster Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Posted May 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Goalie said: Why. When raanta elliot grubauer and Steve mason are available and cheaper and probably better options and the best part all they will cost you is maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder and a B prospect like Kosmachuk. Or in mason and Elliots case... whatever contract you offer them. Tessier writes for hockey buzz which is eklunds site so... in other words he's full of crap Give it a rest. The guy wrote a blog. It wasnt an "insider" report. Not everyone with an opinion you disagree with is maliciously trying to antagonize you. Having said that, I tend to agree with you. Jets would balk at 5 more years at that price.
Atomic Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Goalie said: Why. When raanta elliot grubauer and Steve mason are available and cheaper and probably better options and the best part all they will cost you is maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder and a B prospect like Kosmachuk. Or in mason and Elliots case... whatever contract you offer them. Tessier writes for hockey buzz which is eklunds site so... in other words he's full of crap I don't particularly want to see Schneider here but there is no question he is better than Mason and Elliott. Raanta and Grubauer are both intriguing options and we could get them for a year or two before offering them a big contract if they earn it. But I have a tough time imagining us going outside the organization and acquiring a young goalie with the intention of keeping him here long term. I see us looking for a veteran to play for one or two years.... I wonder if Ryan Miller could be an option. He's old but we can count on him being pretty good for 30 or so games, I think. I'd rather have him than Elliott or another bum. JCon 1
Brandon Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 Lawless is funny thinking that the team would trade away Ehlers + Comrie + prospects for Corey Schneider. The banter of Hustler banging his head against the wall trying to explain to Lawless that with Pavelec off the books that the club has much more money to drop on a bigger name goalie without having to dump Ehlers and his possible future salary was great. Also him trying to explain the Lawless that it makes no sense for the Jets to trade away Ehlers rather then a 1st round draft pick because Ehlers is a proven guy and a 1st round draft pick wouldn't be a guarantee was hilarious. The whole segment came away with me thinking that Lawless really doesn't put a lot of thought in his comments. As for free agent goalies... their are a tonne of experienced guys still on the market. The Jets were never going to get Bishop. Mason is a likely target same with Elliott... guy who will play 30 - 50 games for 2 seasons is what they want. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Posted May 10, 2017 The only thing that perplexes me about the push for Corey is that contract. I like him. I like his stats. But 5 years at $6m per? Thats basically saying you're not going with Helle. Thats trading for a new #1 and then hope Comrie takes over. If thats what the Jets decide, so be it. Jersey would need a goalie so I imagine it would be Helle for Corey. But I woudnt do Ehlers for Corey straight up, let alone adding Comrie. Because if you NEED a new #1, there was Darling and Bishop available for a pick and the Jets didnt do it. So they arent trading a star player for an aging goalie on a contract they dont like when they have a goalie they DO like (rightly or wrongly). Their intent (The Jets) is to replace Hutch, not replace Helle. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted May 10, 2017 Report Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: The only thing that perplexes me about the push for Corey is that contract. I like him. I like his stats. But 5 years at $6m per? Thats basically saying you're not going with Helle. Thats trading for a new #1 and then hope Comrie takes over. If thats what the Jets decide, so be it. Jersey would need a goalie so I imagine it would be Helle for Corey. But I woudnt do Ehlers for Corey straight up, let alone adding Comrie. Because if you NEED a new #1, there was Darling and Bishop available for a pick and the Jets didnt do it. So they arent trading a star player for an aging goalie on a contract they dont like when they have a goalie they DO like (rightly or wrongly). Their intent (The Jets) is to replace Hutch, not replace Helle. Your last sentence is bang on. In reality Schneider Bishop Darling were never real options. It's interesting that we are putting the unproven darling in that group tho. Just want to add... radio guys need to talk about things so just cut they are talking about Schneider or whoever... in the end all it means is nothing... they are just killing time. Speculating more so as fans. Edited May 10, 2017 by Goalie The Unknown Poster and JCon 2
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