Goalie Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 Yup. He's only 23. Can't get a NMC until he's either 27 or played 7 years in the league. Irrelevant tho. He's gonna be a career jet.
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) In four or five years when the cap is 78-80 million a year, everyone will be wondering how we got him so cheap. I can't see Trouba signing until just before TC and Lowry and Armia getting a bit more (not much) than Goalie quoted above. What a great time to be a Jet fan. Chevy's real cap test will come around 2018-2019 and 2019-2020 when some of the young stars like Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Petan, Morrissey, and Comrie become RFAs and Wheeler, Little and Myers are UFAs. Next off-season doesn't show any really big names coming up for renewal outside of Helle. Interesting times ahead. TUP, I listened to that interview. What a great individual. He is way up in Bumfart, Northern Ontario with his strength coach for a golf tourney to raise money for charity. Spoke about it being an honor and how he knows he has to continue to keep on getting better every year. Edited July 9, 2016 by Ducky forgot Little The Unknown Poster 1
Goalie Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 I doubt Lowry and Armia get more than a million. It might be less even. They have both proven nothing so far. I think trouba will be signed next
Goalie Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 Read an interesting rumor. Involves Colorado Winnipeg Anaheim Essentially it breaks down like this To Colorado Trouba To Anaheim Landeskog To Winnipeg Lindholm I don't think there's much to it but would be interesting and hard to not say no from the Jets perspective
Goalie Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Not all of ehlers Connor Laine etc will need big bucks. They are rfa and have no real options. 1 might not turn out. Hard to say. You also need to look at in the next 2 years... Pav Stuart Chiarot Postma hutch for that matter... Stafford Thorburn Peluso and a few others deals are all up. Pav stafford and Thor this coming off season saves the jets close to 10 million bucks. Peluso Chiarot Burmi saves them another 3 or 4 million. Enstrom saves them 5.75 million. Stuart saves them about 3 million. So while they will have guys like little wheeler Ehlers Laine Connor etc to sign... they will probably have tons of money left to do it. Jets will sign who they want and let the others go. Lots of money to go around in a couple years. Ehlers Connor Little Morrissey little Wheeler Laine. Lots of cash available when they are up. Trust me that the jets and Chevy are well aware when these deals are up and have stratigically planned for it for a couple years now. Edited July 9, 2016 by Goalie
Rich Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Goalie said: I doubt Lowry and Armia get more than a million. It might be less even. They have both proven nothing so far. I think trouba will be signed next Considering they both carried a cap hit of around 800k and 900k with an actual salary of 900k and 1.2M with bonuses last year, I would say the minimum either would sign for is $1.5M.
Goalie Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 I don't think either gets 1.5 If it is it will be a 1 or 2 year deal. I just don't see it. Lowry was sent to the moose last year. Armia while showed promise did very little.
iso_55 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Goalie said: Read an interesting rumor. Involves Colorado Winnipeg Anaheim Essentially it breaks down like this To Colorado Trouba To Anaheim Landeskog To Winnipeg Lindholm I don't think there's much to it but would be interesting and hard to not say no from the Jets perspective Link?
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 Lowry 2 years for 1.4m per. Armia 1.2m per for 2 years.
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 I am with Goalie though, Lowry and Staf in a package plus something of more value (1st rounder?) for a 2nd pairing LHD but the expansion draft throws such a wrench into plans.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 We could get a lot for Staf. His stats say 20g/year but stats dont show he never hits anyone or that a lot of goals are in the net when the goalie is out of it
Floyd Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: We could get a lot for Staf. His stats say 20g/year but stats dont show he never hits anyone or that a lot of goals are in the net when the goalie is out of it Now we can't trade him because of this post.
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 Scheifele's deal is better than MacKinnon's deal and plus it is a year longer. Scheif is 31 when his is over and Mackinnon will only be 27.
Rich Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ducky said: Scheifele's deal is better than MacKinnon's deal and plus it is a year longer. Scheif is 31 when his is over and Mackinnon will only be 27. Yeah but Scheifele is 23 and MacKinnon is 20 I love Scheifele, but MacKinnon has done at least as much or more than Scheifele at a much younger age. FrostyWinnipeg 1
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 He will be an UFA at 27 and Scheif at 31. Mac.........153 points in 218 games 63, 38 and 52. Scheif......145 points in 227 games 34, 49 and 61. Both very good players. I think 31-32 is the perfect age to have a contract run out if you are the organization and 26-27 if you are a player. My opinion. FrostyWinnipeg 1
Rich Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 I agree the Scheifele deal is fantastic. Just saying that the comparison to MacKinnon isn't an apples to apple comparison. Ducky 1
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 I think MacKinnon continues his upward progression but what is it going to cost to re-sign him at 27? Scheif at 31 might take a 2 or 3 year deal to finish off his career here. Fingers full of rings and name on the cup so much the engraver doesn't even have to look it up to spell it...
kelownabomberfan Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 23 hours ago, Goalie said: Enstrom is a legit number 1 d man. Fair deal at the time. The pav Stuart and thorburn deals tho were headscratchers maybe in the ECHL FrostyWinnipeg, Judd and IC Khari 3
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: maybe in the ECHL His first year here was good. He was more of an offensive dman. Then he took 3 years off. Last year was a great year for Toby the dog. Still don't love him or his contract but he was serviceable.
Ducky Posted July 9, 2016 Report Posted July 9, 2016 A legit 2LHD...he has his faults but he has a lot of good points too. Best passing D man and smartest D man we have. He scores less points now because of the system he plays in now compared to the one he played in back then. Plus, he sees way less time on the PP. Judd, Goalie and The Unknown Poster 3
Goalie Posted July 10, 2016 Report Posted July 10, 2016 D men who play D very good are good to have. Enstrom is that guy. I will say I'd move him in a heartbeat tho because his age doesn't fit. Plus then you could protect buff trouba myers. Younger players. Toby is a legit #2 d man on most teams and a #1 on some. He's good. He's just not part of the future. Some people just see his height tho.
Goalie Posted July 10, 2016 Report Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) As for Armia. Shane Prince just signed a 2 yr deal with nyi. 6 goals 12 assists 18 points in his nhl career. Armia has 4 goals 6 assists 10 points in his career. Prince will be paid 700 000 in 2016. Have played pretty much the same amount of nhl games also. 1 million? Not a chance Edited July 10, 2016 by Goalie
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