Goalie Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) To bring this back to Trouba a little bit. I do think it's odd that when Scheifs signed his new deal and when Laine was taken at the draft for that matter... Wheeler Ehlers .. Jets who use social media congratulated them. Trouba did not. Perhaps it's just coincidence but it's strange behavior. I hope that the jets can sign trouba to a reasonable deal... by reasonable I mean 5.5 or less on a 6 or 7 year deal... if not... perhaps trading him would be for the best. It would also be very interesting to know what the jets think his ceiling is cuz I do tend to think that perhaps trouba is a bit over rated by a segment of the fans Edited July 13, 2016 by Goalie
Jimmy Pop Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 Trouba's only tweeted a few times in 2016 - I wouldn't worry about that. He may be overrated by some - but most comments I see from fans seem pretty legit: - He's not worth the $6.5/$7M supposed ask from his agent, we know this. (But is that # really the ask? Is it the final ask? - it's negotiation & media speculation, mostly. IMO) - While he may not be worth that much, how much nickle & diming do you do with a 23 yr old D whose already played 200+ games in a top 4 role? - Jets hold all the cards, and won't (or shouldn't) be rushed into a deal / decision. I still think Trouba is a Jet long-term and have faith that if he does need to be dealt, the return will be a good one. JCon 1
JCon Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 It was very telling when Sheif said he wasn't involved in the negotiations much right until the end. Same is likely true with Trouba. There is so much we don't know about the negotiations, like what was offered and what was requested. So much of what happens here may have depended on where the Sheif negotiations went. If that's a starting point, then Trouba could follow really quickly now. As far as we know, the term and figure has been negotiated and all they're talking now is the timing of the payments. Jimmy Pop 1
Jimmy Pop Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 Exactly. Main reason I shake my head when fans say "Trouba wants this" or "Trouba's demanding that". It's the agents! It's them doing their job and trying to put the very best offer in front of their client. For most, I would think, best = most money / term. Market for player's similar to Trouba + Jets in control - likelihood of an offer sheet = Trouba's a Jet to open the season.
Jimmy Pop Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 I like it. IC Khari, Brandon Blue&Gold and Floyd 3
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said: I like it. Winnipeg Jets @NHLJets 10m10 minutes ago Bout right. Might be steal for Lowry. Edited July 14, 2016 by FrostyWinnipeg
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: One way or two way? 1. IC Khari 1
The Unknown Poster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Good deals. Lowry would have got more if he was RFA last summer. Very affordable, allows players time to develop. Good cost certainty for two potentially solid depth players. Ducky 1
Goalie Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) Solid deals. Both at about what was expected. Under 1 million for Armia I'd fair. Just over for Lowry is ok. Lowry needs to show lots of improvement these ext 2 years cuz a guy like roslovic and petan and even copp and Burmi will be pushing him. Edited July 14, 2016 by Goalie
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Goalie said: Solid deals. Both at about what was expected. Under 1 million for Armia I'd fair. Just over for Lowry is ok. Lowry needs to show lots of improvement these ext 2 years cuz a guy like roslovic and petan and even copp and Burmi will be pushing him. Lots of faith to give Armia one way.
JCon Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Good deals and I'm glad they're done. I think Lowry can be our 3rd line centre but he needs to bounce back from last season. Armia? Who knows. Haven't seen enough at the NHL level to warrant a one-way, IMO, but they probably got a small discount.
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Lots of faith to give Armia one way. They can still send him down, not like 925k salary is gonna break the bank
Rich Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 I find it unlikely they will be sending Armia down anyway. He is no longer waiver exempt. He would very likely get picked up on waivers by somebody. Ducky and JCon 2
The Unknown Poster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, IC Khari said: Just Trouba left, good job Chevy! Tanev and Lipon too, I think.
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 32 minutes ago, Rich said: I find it unlikely they will be sending Armia down anyway. He is no longer waiver exempt. He would very likely get picked up on waivers by somebody. Maybe he would. But there are only so many spots to go around. Would you rather send down a better player just because he is waiver exempt? Sure way to build a losing team.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Atomic said: Maybe he would. But there are only so many spots to go around. Would you rather send down a better player just because he is waiver exempt? Sure way to build a losing team. Well, you dont want to lose a player you value either. If Petan and Armia are similar levels of play, you're sending down Petan. Even if he's slightly better probably. He'd have to be a lot better. I'd say the contract shows the Jets feel Armia can make the team or at worst be the 13th forward. Or he's included in a trade.
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Well I can easily get to 13 forwards without Armia included. I also don't think he is as hot a commodity around the league as some might believe, and that being picked up on waivers is no guarantee.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, Atomic said: Well I can easily get to 13 forwards without Armia included. I also don't think he is as hot a commodity around the league as some might believe, and that being picked up on waivers is no guarantee. Who claims he's a hot commodity?
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Who claims he's a hot commodity? Rich said it's very likely he would get claimed. I'd say it's 50/50 maybe.
The Unknown Poster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, Atomic said: Rich said it's very likely he would get claimed. I'd say it's 50/50 maybe. 50/50 is too much.
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: 50/50 is too much. In what way? I don't get what you're saying.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Good job Chevy. Expecting big things out of both of these guys this year, in the bottom six. Both are key guys on the third and fourth lines. Armia adds a lot of skill, hope he can play with Copp again this year, as Copp really seemed to pick up his game with Armia on his wing instead of Thorbs.
Atomic Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 For example if it came down to Dano or Armia I would hope they keep the better player (Dano) regardless of contract status.
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